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leonard percy andrews

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Mar 2013 20:38

Already answers on the other thread about him:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1321292

psmuskoka

psmuskoka Report 13 Mar 2013 18:50

I am seeking some assistance re James William Bagnall born 12 April 1927 (I have his birth certificate fro GRO) mother Rosalia Bagnall nee Smith. His mother, my Grandmother died the following year and his father also died (Albert Edward Bagnall 1931 after a lenghy illness. James I am told was adopted out not long after his mother died, I believe he may have died in 1963 in wales but this is not confirmed, I would like any information on him as i have so little and in particular if he got married and to whom, I would assume that he remained in the greater London area. James was born at home 111 Gospatrick Road Wood Green, Edmonton, Middlesex and lived for a short time at 218 Risley Avenue
Thank you
Peter Wraight

psmuskoka

psmuskoka Report 11 Mar 2013 13:43

Thank you Helen for confirming the death of leonard Percy Bagnall I can now order the death certificate
Cheers
Peter Wraight

psmuskoka

psmuskoka Report 11 Mar 2013 13:31

Thank you reggie I will follow up on ordering those certificates I live in Canada so it takes a while to get them and I have quite a collection now of relatives, I do try to get as much information first to limit the expense of ordering wrong ones which has happened before.
The information you sent will be very helpful and I thank you very much for that
Peter Wraight

psmuskoka

psmuskoka Report 11 Mar 2013 13:26

I have the birth certificate for leonard Percy Andrews he was born 11 March 1910 to Nellie Elizabeth Andrews at 33 Carlingford Road Tottenham, west tottenham district Edmonton, County Middlesex. No father shown Nellie occupation shown as an Assistant at phonograph Shop.
I am very interested in learning more about nellie and any information would be welcome as I am unable to gather any on where she came from, went to or parents etc.
Leonard Percy was adopted into my mothers family and took the name Bagnall he lived in the Tottenham, haggerston, Finchley and Shoreditch area of London at least until the early 1930,s. Ibelieve that he may have married a Dora M Hodges in Sept 1933 or 1937 and died Greater London Dec 1971 but these facts (marriage and death) have not been confirmed.
Thank you in advance for any assistance
Peter Wraight

Reggie

Reggie Report 11 Mar 2013 13:26

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1911 census


Person: ANDREWS, Nellie Elizabeth Address: 31 Englefield Road N E

ANDREWS, Ellen Head Widow F 50 1861 Stepney London VIEW
ANDREWS, Nellie Elizabeth Daughter Single F 25 1886 Shop Assistant Islington London VIEW
ANDREWS, Alfred William Son Single M 23 1888 Motor Obnibus Driver Islington London VIEW
ANDREWS, Daisy Ethel Daughter Single F 21 1890 Clerk Islington London VIEW
ANDREWS, Herbert Harwin Son Single M 19 1892 Assistant Stoke Keeper Islington London VIEW
ANDREWS, Elsie Louisa Daughter F 14 1897 Islington London VIEW
ANDREWS, Violet Winifred Daughter F 12 1899 School Islington London

Helen

Helen Report 11 Mar 2013 13:22

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Leonard Percy Bagnall
Name: Leonard Percy Bagnall
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1910
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1971
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Haringey
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5b
Page: 2204

Reggie

Reggie Report 11 Mar 2013 13:13

The only way to confirm the marriage and death is to purchase the certs

psmuskoka

psmuskoka Report 11 Mar 2013 13:07

I have the birth certificate for leonard Percy Andrews he was born 11 March 1910 to Nellie Elizabeth Andrews at 33 Carlingford Road Tottenham, west tottenham district Edmonton, County Middlesex. No father shown Nellie occupation shown as an Assistant at phonograph Shop.
I am very interested in learning more about nellie and any information would be welcome as I am unable to gather any on where she came from, went to or parents etc.
Leonard Percy was adopted into my mothers family and took the name Bagnall he lived in the Tottenham, haggerston, Finchley and Shoreditch area of London at least until the early 1930,s. Ibelieve that he may have married a Dora M Hodges in Sept 1933 or 1937 and died Greater London Dec 1971 but these facts (marriage and death) have not been confirmed.
Thank you in advance for any assistance
Peter Wraight

psmuskoka

psmuskoka Report 22 Feb 2013 17:52

yes thank you, i do believe that he did use the name bagnall and I am not sure if his name was legaly changed I have had a bit of difficulty in tracking his movements past the 1930,s and i dont think that he remained in touch with other family members after his adopted parents died (Albert and rosalia) it remains a mystery as to how he came to be adopted by my grand parents, they had their first child die (reason and date unknown) the name of a birth parent(s) could perhaps give a clue.
Thank you for your help it is appreciated.

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Feb 2013 17:23

If you check, you'll find that his death was registered as BAGNALL

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Feb 2013 17:11

Could this be his death?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Leonard Percy Andrews
Birth Date: 24 Nov 1909
Date of Registration: Dec 1999
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: East Dorset
Inferred County: Dorset
Register Number: A6
District and Subdistrict: 4261A
Entry number: 120

There were a few of that name. One born Portsmouth in 1908 and one born 1910 New Forest.

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Feb 2013 17:10

1911 census

Person: BAGNALL, Rosalie Address: 73 Fellows Street Shoreditch

BAGNALL, Albert Head Married M 29 1882 Plater Hand Tottenham VIEW
BAGNALL, Rosalie Wife Married F 26 1885 Finsbury VIEW
ANDREW S, Leonard Adopted Son M 1 1910 Edmonton

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Leonard Percy Andrews
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1910
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 525

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Feb 2013 17:08

Birth certificate may tell you more:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Leonard Percy Andrews
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1910
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 525

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Feb 2013 17:08

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
Bagnall Albert Edward Shoreditch 1c 121
Smith Rosalie Shoreditch 1c 121

Reggie

Reggie Report 22 Feb 2013 17:05

Use freebmd to look for the birth registration

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

psmuskoka

psmuskoka Report 22 Feb 2013 16:56

I am trying to find the birth mother for leonard who was adopted in 1910 by Albert Edward and Rosalia Bagnall, I believe he was born in the London area possibly Shoreditch in either 1910 or poss 1909. Perhaps he was born to an unwed mother a relative of the family, it does seem a likely possibility. Leonard Percy Andrews possibly born at Edmonton and there is a record of birth for this name in 1910 but not sure if it is him.