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Louis Lichenstein

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Cooper

Cooper Report 24 Feb 2013 15:36

Was born in Germany (Prussia) in 1815. I have found him living at number 13 Sloane street London in the 1871 census with a wife Rosina who I believe was born in France.

I'm trying to make out his occupation, it says I think, importers of Swiss ??

I cannot find him on any other census. His children were born in England.

Verbal family information says Louis had an illegitimate child called Thomas Leach born aprox 1855


Many thanks for any information

Teresa

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Feb 2013 15:44

Looks like Swiss Cordings

1871 for reference:

LICHENSTEIN, Louis Head M 56 1815 Germany
LICHENSTEIN, Rosina Wife F 49 1822 France
LICHENSTEIN, Marian Son M 15 1856 Surrey
LICHENSTEIN, Thiodore Son M 12 1859 Surrey
HUNT, Sally Servant F 20 1851 Sussex

Piece: 87 Folio: 5 Page: 3
Registration District: Chelsea
Civil Parish: Chelsea

Address: Sloane Street, Chelsea County: London, Middlesex

The 2 children born Southwark.

Cooper

Cooper Report 24 Feb 2013 15:45

Thank you, do you know what occupation this might be please

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Feb 2013 15:47

I'd say Importer was his occupation and they were the items he brought in.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Feb 2013 15:50

1861 is this not the family ?

Name: Theodore D Lichtenstein
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Louis Lichtenstein
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Southwark St Thomas
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Olave
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 316
Folio: 138
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Louis Lichtenstein 43
Maurice Lichtenstein 5
Theodore D Lichtenstein 2
Rosina Dagan 39 - shown as sister-in-law
Mary Simons 19
Michalis Asch 30

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Feb 2013 15:53

There are a few newspaper articles in 1855 about the bankruptcy of a Louis Lichenstein who was an importer of foreign goods.

He was on the ER in 1876 so must have been eligible to vote:

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Louis Lichenstein
Year: 1876
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Street Address: 13 Sloane street
Reference Number: MR/PER/B/013

(Address matches the 1871 census)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Feb 2013 15:54

1871 Maria born 1856 is shown as son

Cooper

Cooper Report 24 Feb 2013 15:59

Thank you Glitter Baby and Marie,

Yes this is the family, thank you for the information. We had been led to believe he had made money and so being made bankrupt sounds feasible.

Is there any sites where the newspaper articles are? I haven't done any FH for ages

Many thanks

Teresa

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Feb 2013 16:29

Teresa, they were from the British Newspaper Archives on FindMyPast, but they're also available on here under the Search menu.

Cooper

Cooper Report 24 Feb 2013 16:32

Many thanks Marie, i will look them up here

Teresa

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Feb 2013 16:49

This article has him as Hungarian:

London Standard - 16 November 1855

In Re: Lichenstein

This was an application for certificate made by Louis Lichenstein of Great St Helen's, described as an importer of foreign goods. The bankrupt was one of the Hungarian noblemen who sacrificed their estates by aiding the revolutionist party and who accompanied Louis Kossuth to this country.

The debts are returned at £3740, assets £680

Mr Chidley, for the assignees, recommended the bankrupt to the favourable consideration of the court. The bankrupt had started in business at the suggestion of several sympathisers, who were now creditors, and who had been in possession of the state of his circumstances, and he had not forfeited the confidence of the creditors.
Mr Lawrence supported the bankrupt and stated that the failure arose from the war.
His Honour said that as the principal creditors consented, and the failure arose from partly unavoidable loss and misfortune, he would grant an immediate second class certificate.

Cooper

Cooper Report 24 Feb 2013 17:06

Thankyou Marie,

that is very kind of you.

I am reseaching Louis for my in laws as he is on their side of the Family history.

i had just popped out to start cooking the tea :)

Teresa