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24 Feb 2013 21:52 |
I am looking for descendats and ancesters of Thomas Bull, born 1844 in Radford ,Notts. Married Elizabeth Parsons, 1866. Children: - John W b 1866, Samuel b 1868, Mary b 1871, Lucy Edith b 1873, Ada Helen b 1876, Thomas b 1878, Ernest Harry b1880, Elizabeth Anne b 1883, Frank b 1885. I am the grandson of Ernest Harry and would like to find out more about his siblings
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GlitterBaby
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24 Feb 2013 22:05 |
Have you found any of them on 1911 census ?
Checked on FreeBMD for any possible marriages
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PricklyHolly
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24 Feb 2013 22:11 |
Welcome to the boards Paul.
1891 England Census about Ernest Harry Bull Name: Ernest Harry Bull Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Bull Mother's name: Elizth Bull Gender: Male Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Mansfield Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Mansfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2655 Folio: 96 Page Number: 47 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Bull 46 Elizth Bull 43 Mary Ann Bull 20 Lucy Edith Bull 18 Thomas Bull 13 Ernest Harry Bull 10 Elizabeth Anna Bull 8 Frank Hallam Bull 6
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Thomas Bull Name: Thomas Bull Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1907 Age at Death: 62 Registration district: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 72
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Elizabeth Bull Name: Elizabeth Bull Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1901 Age at Death: 53 Registration district: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 62
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24 Feb 2013 22:15 |
All the marriages are easily found here....
www.freebmd.org.uk/
Then it's just a simple case of matching them up in the next census.
All the marriages are easliMarriages Mar 1896 (>99%) Bull Lucy Edith Mansfield 7b 137 Crossland Thomas Mansfield 7b 137
Household transcription 1911 census Person: CROSSLAND, Lucy Edith Address: 1 Talbot Street Mansfield
CROSSLAND, Thomas Head Married M 37 1874 Coal Miner Hewer Derbyshire Staveley VIEW CROSSLAND, Lucy Edith Wife Married15 years F 38 1873 Nottingham Mansfield VIEW CROSSLAND, Harry Son M 14 1897 Iron Moulder Derbyshire Staveley VIEW CROSSLAND, Thomas Son M 11 1900 Derbyshire Staveley VIEW CROSSLAND, Ivy Annie Daughter F 7 1904 Derbyshire Staveley VIEW CROSSLAND, Edna Daughter F 3 1908 Nottingham Mansfield VIEW CROSSLAND, Jack Son M 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Nottingham Mansfield VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 20337 Reference: RG14PN20337 RG78PN1219 RD428 SD5 ED5 SN158 Registration District: Mansfield Sub District: Mansfield Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Mansfield Address: 1 Talbot Street Mansfield County: Nottinghamshire
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Lucy E Crossland Name: Lucy E Crossland Birth Date: abt 1873 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1936 Age at Death: 63 Registration district: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 108
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GlitterBaby
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24 Feb 2013 22:22 |
Births Jun 1885 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bull Frank Hallam Mansfield 7b 90
Oh bother two possible marriages
Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BULL Frank Hallam Mansfield 7b 87
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BULL Frank Hallam Mansfield 7b 122
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PricklyHolly
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24 Feb 2013 22:22 |
Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%) Baker Kate Mansfield 7b 122 BULL Frank Hallam Mansfield 7b 122
Household transcription 1911 census Person: BULL, Frank Hallam Address: 99 Bould St Mansfield
BULL, Frank Hallam Head Married M 27 1884 Coal Miner Fitter Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, Kate Wife Married1 years F 18 1893 Marten Lincs VIEW BULL, Kathleen Mary Daughter F 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Mansfield Notts VIEW BONNTON, Emily Visitor Single M 19 1892 General Domestic Servant Bloxwich Staffs VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 20350 Reference: RG14PN20350 RG78PN1219 RD428 SD5 ED18 SN165 Registration District: Mansfield Sub District: Mansfield Enumeration District: 18 Parish: Mansfield Address: 99 Bould St Mansfield County: Nottinghamshire
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Frank H Bull Name: Frank H Bull Birth Date: abt 1885 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1938 Age at Death: 53 Registration district: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 45
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PricklyHolly
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24 Feb 2013 22:27 |
Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%) BULL Elizabeth Annie Mansfield 7b 232 MILLOTT Walter Curson Mansfield 7b 232
Household transcription 1911 census Person: MILLOTT, Elizabeth Annie Address: 17 Howard Road Mansfield
MILLOTT, Walter Curzon Head Married M 33 1878 Butcher Journeyman Mansfield Notts VIEW MILLOTT, Elizabeth Annie Wife Married3 years F 28 1883 Mansfield Notts VIEW MILLOTT, Thomas Curzon Son M 1 1910 Mansfield Notts VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 20349 Reference: RG14PN20349 RG78PN1219 RD428 SD5 ED17 SN218 Registration District: Mansfield Sub District: Mansfield Enumeration District: 17 Parish: Mansfield Address: 17 Howard Road Mansfield County: Nottinghamshire
Births Dec 1911 (>99%) Millott Walter E Bull Mansfield 7b 323
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Elizabeth A Millott Name: Elizabeth A Millott Birth Date: abt 1883 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1944 Age at Death: 61 Registration district: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 55
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PricklyHolly
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24 Feb 2013 22:36 |
Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%) BULL Mary Ann Mansfield 7b 89 Shirley George William Mansfield 7b 89
Household transcription 1911 census Person: SHIRLEY, Mary Ann Address: 22 Railway Cottages Lowgates Staveley
SHIRLEY, George William Head Married14 years M 40 1871 Great Central Engine Driver Kilnhurst VIEW SHIRLEY, Mary Ann Wife F 40 1871 Mansfield VIEW SHIRLEY, Lillie Daughter F 12 1899 Staveley Town VIEW SHIRLEY, George William Son M 10 1901 School Staveley Town VIEW SHIRLEY, Arthur Harry Son M 8 1903 Staveley Town VIEW SHIRLEY, Mary Daughter F 5 1906 Staveley Town VIEW SHIRLEY, Jack Son M 3 1908 Staveley Town VIEW SHIRLEY, Annie Daughter F 1 1910 Staveley Town VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 21151 Reference: RG14PN21151 RG78PN1259 RD438 SD4 ED21 SN264 Registration District: Chesterfield Sub District: Eckington Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Staveley Address: 22 Railway Cottages Lowgates Staveley County: Derbyshire
Births Dec 1911 (>99%) SHIRLEY Kathleen Bull Chesterfield 7b 1494
Births Dec 1914 (>99%) SHIRLEY Frank Bull Chesterfield 7b 1525
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Mary A Shirley Name: Mary A Shirley Birth Date: abt 1871 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1939 Age at Death: 68 Registration district: Chesterfield Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 1005
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24 Feb 2013 22:52 |
Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%) Bull Thomas Chesterfield 7b 1555 SIMS Bertha Chesterfield 7b 1555
Household transcription 1911 census Person: BULL, Bertha Address: 47 Handley Road
BULL, Thomas Head Married M 33 1878 Insurance Agent Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, Bertha Wife Married8 years F 31 1880 Houseduties New Whittington Derbyshire VIEW BULL, Doris Evelyn Daughter F 7 1904 New Whittington Derbyshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 21111 Reference: RG14PN21111 RG78PN1257 RD438 SD2 ED32 SN326 Registration District: Chesterfield Sub District: Chesterfield Enumeration District: 32 Parish: Whittington Address: 47 Handley Road County: Derbyshire
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Thomas Bull Name: Thomas Bull Birth Date: abt 1878 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1934 Age at Death: 56 Registration district: Chesterfield Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 626
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Christine
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24 Feb 2013 22:59 |
This was the 1906 wife.
Deaths Jun 1908 BULL Edith Charlotte H 27 Mansfield 7b 75
Marriages Mar 1906 BUGG Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 87 BULL Frank Hallam Mansfield 7b 87 FORDER Ernest Mansfield 7b 87 HARRIS Edith Charlotte H Mansfield 7b 87
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24 Feb 2013 23:19 |
1891 England Census about John W Bull Name: John W Bull Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Bull Gender: Male Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Mansfield Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Mansfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2655 Folio: 39 Page Number: 71 Household Members: Name Age John W Bull 24 Mary A Bull 23
Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%) Bull John William Mansfield 7b 154 Featherstone Mary Ann Mansfield 7b 154
Household transcription 1911 census Person: BULL, Mary Ann Address: 14 Bowling St Mansfield FEATHERSTONE, Frank Head Single M 32 1879 Farm Labourer Nottinghamshire Mansfield VIEW BULL, Mary Ann Sister Married20 years F 43 1868 Mansfield Notts VIEW FEATHERSTONE, Elizabeth Sister Single F 41 1870 Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, John William Son Single M 17 1894 Butcjher's Apprentice Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, George Son Single M 18 1893 Moulder In General Iron Foundrey Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, Dorothy Daughter Single F 16 1895 Dressmaking Apprentice Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, Robert Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Mansfield Notts VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 20340 Reference: RG14PN20340 RG78PN1219 RD428 SD5 ED8 SN293 Registration District: Mansfield Sub District: Mansfield Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Mansfield Address: 14 Bowling St Mansfield County: Nottinghamshire (Mary has 4 children born and living)
Mary is with her Brother and Sister in the 1901 census ..........for some reason they have been transcribed with the surname of "Clark"
1901 England Census about Dorothy Bull Name: Dorothy Bull Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Mansfield Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 41 Piece: 3141 Folio: 8 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Frank Clark 24 Elizabeth Clark 31 Mary A Bull 33 (Married) John M Bull 9 George Bull 8 Dorothy Bull 5
John is with his Parents.....
1901 England Census about John W Bull Name: John W Bull Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Bull Mother's name: Elizabeth Bull Gender: Male Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Mansfield Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 93 Piece: 3141 Folio: 107 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Bull 55 Elizabeth Bull 53 John W Bull 34 (Married) Pattern Maker Elizabeth A Bull 18 Frank Hallan Gandlen 16.........(Frank Hallan Bull on the image) Fred Bull 3 (Grandson)>>>>Appears with Mother Ada Ellen Shirley (Nee Bull) in the 1911 census.
I can't spot John William in the 1911 census...........this is possibly his death...
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about John W Bull Name: John W Bull Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1911 Age at Death: 45 Registration district: Grantham Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 258 Maybe he was working away from home or in a hospital in Lincolnshire.
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24 Feb 2013 23:25 |
Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%) BULL Sam Mansfield 7b 130 REVILL Mary Mansfield 7b 130
Household transcription 1911 census Person: BULL, Sam Address: 104 Rosemary Street Mansfield
BULL, Sam Head Married M 44 1867 Colliery Roadman Below Ground Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, Mary Wife Married24 years F 46 1865 Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, Ethel Daughter Single F 21 1890 Cotton Doubler Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, Sam Son Single M 19 1892 General Labourer Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, William Thomas Son M 14 1897 Leather Roller Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, Ernest George Son M 12 1899 Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, Dorothy Daughter F 7 1904 Mansfield Notts VIEW BULL, Winifred Annie Niece F 3 1908 Derby VIEW HUGHES, Crasbie Bwan Boarder Single M 38 1873 Engineers Fitter Overbury Worcestershire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 20347 Reference: RG14PN20347 RG78PN1219 RD428 SD5 ED15 SN175 Registration District: Mansfield Sub District: Mansfield Enumeration District: 15 Parish: Mansfield Address: 104 Rosemary Street Mansfield County: Nottinghamshire
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Sam Bull Name: Sam Bull Birth Date: abt 1868 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1937 Age at Death: 69 Registration district: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 92
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24 Feb 2013 23:39 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Ada Ellen Bull Name: Ada Ellen Bull Spouse Name: Frederick Charles Mallett Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1899 Registration district: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume Number: 7b Page Number: 138
Household transcription 1911 census Person: MALLETT, Ada Ellen Address: 115 Yates St Derby MALLETT, Frederick Charles Head Married M 35 1876 Engine Fitter Derby VIEW MALLETT, Ada Ellen Wife Married14 years F 35 1876 Mansfield Notts VIEW MALLETT, Fred Son M 13 1898 School Mansfield Notts VIEW MALLETT, Sydney Son M 11 1900 School Mansfield Notts VIEW MALLETT, Annie Daughter F 9 1902 School Derby VIEW MALLETT, Leslie Son M 7 1904 School Derby VIEW MALLETT, Ernest Son M 3 1908 Derby VIEW MALLETT, Winifred Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Derby VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 20895 Reference: RG14PN20895 RG78PN1247A RD435 SD2 ED24 SN257 Registration District: Derby Sub District: Derby Enumeration District: 24 Parish: Derby Address: 115 Yates St Derby County: Derbyshire
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Ada E Mallett Name: Ada E Mallett Birth Date: abt 1874 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1944 Age at Death: 70 Registration district: Derby Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 526
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Ada Ellen Mallett Name: Ada Ellen Mallett Probate Date: 31 Oct 1944 Death Date: 26 Sep 1944 Death Place: Derbyshire, England Registry: Nottinghamshire, England Of 5 Richmond Road Derby widow.
To Ernest Wifred Mallett warehouseman.
Effects: £481 13s 11d
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Ernest W Mallett Name: Ernest W Mallett Spouse Surname: Mallen Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1929 Registration district: Derby Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume Number: 7b Page Number: 1469
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Ernest W Mallett Name: Ernest W Mallett Spouse Name: Miney A Mallen Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1929 Registration district: Derby Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume Number: 7b Page Number: 1469
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Frederick C Mallett Name: Frederick C Mallett Birth Date: abt 1876 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942 Age at Death: 66 Registration district: Derby Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 525
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Frederick Charles Mallett Name: Frederick Charles Mallett Probate Date: 19 Jan 1943 Death Date: 13 Nov 1942 Death Place: Derbyshire, England Registry: Nottinghamshire, England Of 5 Richmond Road Derby.........Died at the Royal Infirmary Derby.
To Winifred Ada Plackett....(Wife of Leslie Wilfred Plackett)
Effects: £664 1s 3d
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Winifred A Mallett Name: Winifred A Mallett Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1911 Registration district: Derby Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 651
England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Winifred A Mallett Name: Winifred A Mallett Spouse Name: Leslie W H Plackett Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1932 Registration district: Derby Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume Number: 7b Page Number: 1203
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Winifred Ada Plackett Name: Winifred Ada Plackett Birth Date: 16 Feb 1911 Date of Registration: May 1986 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Derby Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 6 Page: 847
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)Bull Ernest Harry Mansfield 7b 137 Buxton Bertha Mansfield 7b 137
Household transcription 1911 census Person: BULL, Ernest Harry BULL, Ernest Harry Head Married M 31 1880 Grocery Assistant Mansfield Notts BULL, Bertha Wife Married F 32 1879 South Hormanton Derbyshire VIEW BULL, Harry Leskie Son Single M 8 1903 Stanley Derbyshire VIEW BULL, Ernest Harold Son M 6 1905 Stanley Derbyshire VIEW BULL, Dorothy Mary Daughter F 3 1908 Southwell North VIEW BULL, Cyril Arthur Son M 1 1910 Southwell North VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 20296 Reference: RG14PN20296 RG78PN1216 RD428 SD2 ED9 SN219 Registration District: Mansfield Sub District: Shirebrook Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Scarcliffe Address: 240 Victoria St Hillstown Chesterfield County: Nottinghamshire
Births Sep 1911 (>99%) BULL Marjorie A Buxton Mansfield 7b 182
Births Jun 1916 (>99%) Bull Mary E Buxton Mansfield 7b 296
Births Jun 1918 (>99%) Bull Gladys Buxton Mansfield 7b 258
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25 Feb 2013 10:59 |
I Can't find Thomas Bull born 1844 Radford Nottingham in a census before his marriage to Elizabeth Parsons.
I think you will need to purchase a copy of his birth certificate to find out who his parents are.
Unless of course you know who his parents are??
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Thomas Bull Name: Thomas Bull Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1845 Registration district: Radford Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 15 Page: 670
1851 England Census about Elizabeth Parsons Name: Elizabeth Parsons Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Parsons Mother's name: Mary Parsons Gender: F (Female) Where born: Pleasley; Hill, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Mansfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1p Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 86 Piece: 2124 Folio: 357 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age John Parsons 27 (Stone Mason) Mary Parsons 23 Elizabeth Parsons 3 George Parsons 25 (Lodger) Stone Mason......(Brother perhaps?) Elizabeth Parsons 19 William Parsons 4 Mo
1861 England Census about John Parsons Name: John Parsons Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Parsons Gender: Male Where born: Pleasley Hill, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Mansfield Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 108 Piece: 2429 Folio: 14 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age John Parsons 37 (Stone Mason) Mary Parsons 32 Elizebeth Parsons 13 Two possible marriage for John Parsons...
Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%) Parsons John Mansfield 15 788
Hardy Mary Mansfield 15 788 Hawley Mary Mansfield 15 788
Having said that.....Mary appears as Mary Ann in one or two census records so it might possibly be.........
Foster Marianne Mansfield 15 788 1846
Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%) Parsons George Mansfield 15 845 Lindley Elizabeth Mansfield 15 845
1871 England Census about John Parsons Name: John Parsons Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Parsons Gender: Male Where born: Pleasley, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Mansfield Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Mansfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Mansfield ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 164 Piece: 3473 Folio: 19 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age John Parsons 46 (Stone Mason) Mary Parsons 40 Fred Parsons 4 (Son) Annie Parsons 7 (Daughter)
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