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Searching records beyond 1911 (1920s, 30s, etc)

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JohnDoe

JohnDoe Report 25 Feb 2013 20:36

I am trying to confirm the parent of my g-grandfather as he was born just after the 1911 census was taken. So it is hard to confirm my g-grandfathers family in the 1911 census is he doesn't show up. Are their any public records where I could clarify my g-grandfathers family after 1911 other than BMD?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Feb 2013 20:40

Marriage cert would give the name and occupation of his father

Buy the birth cert

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Feb 2013 20:41

Do you have an exaact date of birth for him from his death registration please? Is it a common surname? Have you found his birth registration on FreeBMD?

Do you have his marriage certificate to get his father's name and occupation?

If you give more details someone may be able to help more.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Feb 2013 20:41

Look at FreeBMD for his birth and that would give maiden name of mother and then look for any possible marriages

Dea

Dea Report 25 Feb 2013 20:46

If we knew the parents we might find an army record for the father giving the birth details of the child ?

Dea x

JohnDoe

JohnDoe Report 25 Feb 2013 20:48

Here are a few details of my g-grandfather.

Born 18 September 1911 in Cardiff, Wales.
Married in 1933 to Mary Elizabeth Mees in Cardiff, Wales.
Death is not 100% sure but he died in Cardiff, Wales.
Occupation was a Bricklayer/Stone Mason.
Mothers Maiden Name was Donald.

He had 3 children:
Barbara Hill,
Kenneth Edward Hill,
Lorraine Hill

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Feb 2013 20:53

So his name was Arthur R Hill?

Births Dec 1911 Hill Arthur R Donald Cardiff 11a 646

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Feb 2013 20:53

So this is the marriage?

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Mary E Mees
Spouse Surname: Arthur R Hill
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1933
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1103

You can order a copy of the marriage certificate from GRO:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ costs £9.25

It should tell you his age, occupation, address and father's details. You can then work back from that.

patchem

patchem Report 25 Feb 2013 20:54

Births Dec 1911
Hill Arthur R Donald Cardiff 11a 646

Dea

Dea Report 25 Feb 2013 20:54

If you know the mothers maiden name was Donald you must have at least one of the parents' first names?? AND, perhaps the father's occupation ??

Dea x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Feb 2013 20:56

What ever info is found for you the certs would still need to be bought to confirm the postings anyway

patchem

patchem Report 25 Feb 2013 20:57

?
Marriages Sep 1901
DONALD Mary Jane Cardiff 11a 628
HILL Arthur Cardiff 11a 628

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Feb 2013 20:59

Might have been better to keep to one thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1320244

patchem

patchem Report 25 Feb 2013 21:00

?
1911 Wales Census
Arthur Hill Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male Birth Place: Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Whitchurch County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 46 Pantbach Road Whitchurch
Marital Status: Married Years married: 11 Estimated Marriage Year: 1900
Occupation: Brickmaker Registration district: Cardiff
Registration District Number: 588 Sub-registration district: Llandaff
ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Household schedule number: 334 Piece: 32062
Arthur Hill 30
Mary Jane Hill 32
Francis Mary Hill 10
Doris Hill 7
Lilian Hill 5
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32062; Schedule Number: 334.

Stuart

Stuart Report 25 Feb 2013 21:01

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1320244

You say on this thread, also started today, that you are awaiting Arthur R Hill's birth certificate. His parentage was shown I think!

patchem

patchem Report 25 Feb 2013 21:02

Daniel,
What was the point of asking us for the same information that you had already received?
I appreciate that you wanted clarification, but we tend to check out your information as a starting point.

Christine

Christine Report 25 Feb 2013 21:03

There may be TWO Hill/Donald families in the area.

Two Albert's listed, but can't see a death for the first one.

Births Sep 1913
Hill John K Donald Cardiff 11a 694

Births Jun 1915
HILL Constance M Donald Cardiff 11a 701

Births Sep 1916
Hill Albert N H Donald Cardiff 11a 608

Births Mar 1919
Hill Albert I Donald Cardiff 11a 553

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Feb 2013 21:03

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Arthur Ronald Hill
Name: Arthur Ronald Hill
Birth Date: Sep 1911
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1969
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 580



Andy

Stuart

Stuart Report 25 Feb 2013 21:17

The other Hill/Donald marriage

MarriageFinder: Albert Hill married Rosina Donald
Name: HILL, Albert
Registration district: Cardiff
County: Glamorganshire
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Donald
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 679

Arthur R Hill b 1911, 1911 census shows Hill family with the sister Lilian that poster said his ggrandfather had

JohnDoe

JohnDoe Report 26 Feb 2013 11:06

Thanks for the help, and this THREAD was not suppose to be like my other thread. Clearly in my post, this thread was asking how to clarify and search records AFTER 1911 till now? But Thanks all for the help, there are so many different things to look into from your posts so I will have to clarify my g-grandparents names with a Birth Certificate... Will the birth certificate also provide me with the DoB or Age of parents and/or number of siblings?