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Patricia Report 26 Feb 2013 12:33

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this, and can't seem to find a marriage certificate anywhere for my maternal grandparents. They were called Ada Lister (maiden name) DOB 1888 don't have specific date of birth and Joseph Mitchell same year of birth. No idea of year/place of marriage, but may have lived in Washington, Tyne & Wear. They had 3 children. Then moved to Dorset Avenue, Birtley, County Durham. County Durham is now classed as Gateshead for some reason. I have searched for a marriage entry for at least 10yrs either side of 1900, 1920, but no joy.

Any help would be really appreciated.


Pat :-\


Andrew Report 26 Feb 2013 12:47

There is this marriage.....

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)

Lester Ada G Mitchell Hackney 1b 1067
Mitchell Joseph F S Lester Hackney 1b 1067



+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Feb 2013 12:49

When and were the children born so that we can look for a marriage shortly before then?

There is always the possibilty that they didn't actually marry, or if they did, it was her 2nd. She'd be recorded under her 1st married surname, not her maiden name.

Have you considered that a marriage might have taken place in Scotland or Ireland?


Reggie Report 26 Feb 2013 13:22

Where did you look?

And what makes you say that County Durham is now classed as Gateshead?

The town of Gateshead was part of County Durham until the big shake-up in 1974

When and where was each of their 3 children born?

In which year did the family 'move to Birtley'?

WHERE were Joseph and Ada born?


Reggie Report 26 Feb 2013 13:30

1911 census

Person: LISTER, Ada Address: 8 Croft Terrace Jarrow

LISTER, Annie Head Widow F 55 1856 Yorkshire Nottingley VIEW
LISTER, William Son Single M 34 1877 Chemists Assistant Lincolnshire Swineshead VIEW
LISTER, Thomas Son Single M 32 1879 Joiner Lincolnshire Swineshead VIEW
LISTER, Molly Daughter Single F 24 1887 Draughtsman's Tracer Durham Jarrow VIEW
LISTER, Ada Daughter Single F 22 1889 Durham Jarrow VIEW
LISTER, Fred Son Single M 20 1891 Plumber's Apprentice Durham Jarrow VIEW
LISTER, Nellie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Stationers Clerk Durham Jarrow


Reggie Report 26 Feb 2013 13:37

Births Dec 1888 (>99%)
LISTER Ada S. Shields 10a 768


GlitterBaby Report 26 Feb 2013 13:38

If she had middle name of "S" then the marriage in 1913 is not her

Just posting to eliminate. LESTER on image

Name: Joseph Frederick Sidney Mitchell - occupation of engineer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 29
Spouse Name: Ada Grace Lester
Spouse Age: 32
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Sep 1913
Parish: Hackney St Luke
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Joseph Frederick Mitchell
Register Type: Parish Register

Father William Robert Lester - deceased


GlitterBaby Report 26 Feb 2013 13:44

No idea if connected or not

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)

Aitken Alexander Lister Gateshead 10a 1519
BRETT Michael Hendry Gateshead 10a 1519
Hendry Maria Brett Gateshead 10a 1519
Lister Ada S Aitken Gateshead 10a 1519


GlitterBaby Report 26 Feb 2013 13:44


Do you have a birth cert showing both of those names ?



Reggie Report 26 Feb 2013 14:02

Was/is your mother named MARY...born 1931?

That's the only Mitchell/Lister birth in County Durham


Reggie Report 26 Feb 2013 14:03

There is no second forename on Ada's birth record.
'S' is part of the reg'n district name (SOUTH Shields)


GlitterBaby Report 26 Feb 2013 14:24

Thanks Reggie

Think I should have gone to Spec Savers


Reggie Report 26 Feb 2013 15:20


I just happen to be fairly familiar with the north east.........


Patricia Report 26 Feb 2013 23:27

Thanks everyone for your help.

Their children were called Florence/Lilian/Mary i only know the DOB for Mary because she was my mother, she was the youngest.Her date of birth was 11/2/1931.
She died on Dec 28/2008. My grandmother Ada was married previously and had a son called William Brownlee Stephenson. His father was killed in the 1st world war in France, but I don't know the exact date, or his first name, his middle and surname were Brownlee Stephenson. William was born in 1914. I don't have exact dates of birth for him, his son, or my grandparents. I don't think Ada had a middle name, if she did, it would have been Elizabeth, but it's not mentioned on her death certificate. My grandparents lived in a caravan originally when the children were born, and moved to birtley after the birth of my mother, dont have an exact date sorry.




+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Feb 2013 23:38

So really we need to look for a Stephenson/Lister then Stephenson/Mitchell marriage! :-D


Reggie Report 26 Feb 2013 23:39

Why didn't you say that Ada had been married previously?

Just go to freebmd and look for a marriage using her first married name!!!!!!!!

You really should not withold info of which you are aware when asking people to help you

Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)

Lister Ada Stephenson Newcastle T 10b 199
Stephenson Edward Lister Newcastle T 10b 199


Reggie Report 26 Feb 2013 23:41


Rank: Private
Service No: 26/637
Date of Death: 04/09/1916
Age: 33
Regiment/Service: Northumberland Fusiliers "B" Coy. 27th (Tyneside Irish) Bn.
Panel Reference
Pier and Face 10 B 11 B and 12 B.
Additional Information:
Husband of Ada Turnbull (formerly Stephenson), of 17, South Terrace, Birtley, Co. Durham.


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Feb 2013 23:42

Probably William Brownlee Stephenson's birth

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Stephenson William B Lister Newcastle T. 10b 241

First marriage?

Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
Inglis James Inglis Newcastle T 10b 199
Inglis Margaret P Inglis Newcastle T 10b 199
>>>>Lister Ada Stephenson Newcastle T 10b 199
>>>>Stephenson Edward Lister Newcastle T 10b 199


Reggie Report 26 Feb 2013 23:43

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)

Stephenson Ada Turnbull Chester le S 10a 1382
Turnbull Joseph M Stephenson Chester le S. 10a 1382

NO marriage for Ada Turnbull to anyone named Mitchell


Reggie Report 26 Feb 2013 23:45

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Turnbull Florence M Lister Gateshead 10a 2265
Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Turnbull Lillian Lister Newcastle T. 10b 170

Births Jun 1926 (>99%)
Turnbull Joseph H Lister Chester-le-S. 10a 1161

Deaths Dec 1927 (>99%)
Turnbull Joseph H M 1 Chester-le-S. 10a 589