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Thank you lancashireAnn the last information is is very helpfull

on the 1851 census the head of James & Alice household is George Green age 83

(missed off the transcription but definitely the same household on the image)

I would guess the first one of these is your John as on the 1861 census he is a grandson age 10 so probably born 1850 (3mths old in 1851 so could be born Dec mmn Cowburn which probably means Ellen was his mother

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COWBURN John Westhoughton Bolton COWBURN WH/4/500
COWBURN John Westhoughton Bolton HAYES WH/4/463

Think the Baptism is to late have found a Baptism for Alice Green b:1798 Westhoughton bapt: 18/11/1798 Father given as George Green Mother: Hannah

No sorry didn't know until today that her surname was Green if this is correct

Manchester, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1541-1812
about Alice Green
Name: Alice Green
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1808
Parish: Westhoughton, St Bartholomew
Parish as it Appears: Westhoughton
Father's Name: William Green
Mother's name: Ellen Green
Reference Number: GB127.L122/1/2/2

POSSIBLE birth of Ann

Do you know her parents names ?

Yes really sorry Ann .....I cant find a marriage at the moment but have found a source which MAY make Alice Green the most likely which would fit better !

Like you say at this stage its down to Parish records

I will not delete anything as it often helps to leave it knowing what I,ve done wrong

And still no sign of a older child

Thank you will have a look at that marriage, Leigh isn't that far from Westhoughton, will also take a look at Lancs Parish Clerk online

Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
about James Cowburn
Name: James Cowburn
Age: Minor
Marriage Date: 30 Dec 1838
Parish: Bolton le Moors, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: Bolton-le-Moors
Spouse's Name: Alice Hall
Spouse's Father's Name: John Hall
Reference Number: GB127.L243/1/4/26

Must just say this one is registered as a MINOR!

Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
about James Cowburn
Name: James Cowburn
Marriage Date: 7 Oct 1821
Parish: Leigh, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Leigh
Spouse's Name: Alice Green
Reference Number: GB127.L211/1/4/9

Kath You are right and I missed that it was sarah being a dootson I can find two marriages for James b 1796 to an Alice

Sorry Ann my mistake

KempinaThermalhat

What makes you think that Alice's maiden name was Dootson? I can't see anywhere on this thread that gives that as her maiden name (apart from your post at 14.54)

Kath. x

I have some Dootson information so will have a look into that

well often they married people in their village and they had the same names ....I have noticed with this name cowburn there are a lot in that area you could send for the marriage certificate but that wont give relationship between the dootsons

You said John cowburn born in 1851 is the son of James born 1796 and his wife Alice dootson this is confusing me as Johns wife is Sarah Dootson

Thank you

This is a possible death for James Cowburn - I can't find him in the 1871 census and this is the registration district they were living at:-


Name: COWBURN, James
Registration district: Bolton
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1863
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume no: 8C
Page no: 168

Kath. x

Thanks Kath...my view isnt clear


But I dont understand Anns question about


Alice b 1798 is she a Dootson as well as John's wife Sarah

Thank you

The image for the 1851 census says Ellen is UNmarried.

Kath. x