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Found,Charles Lock & family,but not on Ancestry

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Blue1

Blue1 Report 28 Feb 2013 14:49

Hi,
I'm asking for help.
I can't find this family on the 1851 census,not one single member!
Can some one please help?



I have them on 1841,1861,1871,1881,1891.

Charles Lock and his wife Mary give different places of birth on different Census.

Charles 1841 Not in County,1861 Lambeth,1871 Not Known,1881 and 1891 Westminster.

Mary 1841 Not in County,1861 Bermondsey,1871 Hertfordshire,
1881 Hertfordshire,1891 Dorsetshire.

The family live in King Street,Bermondsey throughout the census except for the 1891 where they are in what I think is a shared house,their children and their families are also there.
I have tried to look by address, but have had no luck as I'm not very good at searching by address. Maybe they are all off visiting someone.

I could do with some help please,if any one can spare the time.

I am trying to work out where Charles Lock came from perhaps he will give a clue on the missing Census?
.
My Grt Aunt wrote that the Lock family of mine originally came from Sussex and moved to London to join a cousin who was a Costa Monger in the Tower Bridge Road,East Lane area's.So My Charles should say Sussex if this is correct.

I do know that I have Lock Costa's in my family as my mum told me before she died that she remembered getting fruit from them as a kid at Tower Bridge.My Grt Aunt said the same thing.Unfortunatly she never did name any of them.

It's odd that I can't fine any of the children either in 1851

I shall paste in what I have found and hope that some kind soul will have a look .I really would apprecieate some input as I just can't think of another way to find them.

Address is King Street

1841

Name: Charles Lock
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1047
Book: 5
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Caink 24
Sarah Caink 20
Esther Caink 1
Charles Lock 22
Mary Lock 22
Sophia Lock 3
Eliza Lock 2
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King Street

1861

Name: Charles Lock
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Lock
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalen
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 326
Folio: 78
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Lock 46
Maria Lock 44
Charles Lock 20
Mary Lock 16
John Lock 12
George Lock 9
Eliza Lock 6
Sophia Scales 26 Niece
Maria Scales 6 Months Niece's daughter

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1871
King Street
Name: Charles Locke
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Locke
Gender: Male
Where born: N
Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 629
Folio: 97
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Locke 56
Mary Locke 54
John Locke 20
George Locke 18
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1881
King Street

Name: Charles Lock
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Lock
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 31 King St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Lamp Fitter

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 560
Folio: 94
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Lock 65
Mary Lock 63
Annie Scales 16 Neice's child
Kate Scales 11 Neices child

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1891

Aldred Road (might be in the Walworth road area,not sure)


Name: Charles Lock
Age: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Lock
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, London, England

Civil parish: Newington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Agnes
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 356
Folio: 19
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Lock 75
Mary Lock 72


Charles and Mary are living at 50 Aldred Road,along with some of their children and their families,looks like a shared house.
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Charles and Mary don't appear on the 1901 census as far as I can tell.


Marriage of Charles and Mary.
One of the witness is an Eliza Stevens.

An Eliza Stevens age 19 and living with her parents and sibs,is next door to Charles and Mary Lock in the 1841 Census of King Street.Could be a coincidence.

Name: Mary Crawley
Spouse Name: Charles Lock
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Apr 1841
Parish: Newington St Mary
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Crawley (coal porter)
Spouse Father Name: Jonathan Lock (deceased)
Register Type: Parish Register
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In 1868 Charles and Mary's daughter, Mary Ann Lock marries William Whitnell. One of the witness's is an "Ellen Crawley" could be a relation of the mother of Mary Ann.


Marriage
1863 12 Dec Age: 18
Southwark, Middlesex, England
Witness's Charles Lock and Ellen Crawley
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I don't as yet have the death certs for the couple,I need to track down the reg first, they are on my list for this year.

So in short,if any one can find them or the children in the 1851 I would be really very grateful indeed.


Sorry if it's too much information
Thanks for taking the time to read all this!

best regards
Blue1





Choccy

Choccy Report 28 Feb 2013 15:00


is this them?

1851

RG number: HO107
Piece: 1562
Folio: 394
Page: 45
Reg. District: Bermondsey
Sub District: Leather Market
Parish: Bermondsey
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: Saint Mary Magdalen
City/Municipal Borough: Southwark
Address: 4, King Street, Bermondsey, Southwark
County: Surrey


LOCK, Charles Head Married M 38 1813 Brush Maker
Lambeth, Surrey
LOCK, Mary Wife Married F 35 1816
Whitechapel, Middlesex
LOCK, Sophia Daughter F 14 1837
Bermondsey, Surrey
LOCK, Charles Son M 9 1842
Bermondsey, Surrey
LOCK, Mary Daughter F 7 1844
Bermondsey, Surrey
LOCK, John Son M 1 1850
Bermondsey, Surrey

Blue1

Blue1 Report 28 Feb 2013 15:03

Choccy!

I can't believe it! yes it is them. I can't understand why on earth I couldn't find them.

It's amazing thank you.

I'll have a bash at finding the record my self now so that I can see who else is in the street.

As always these boards prove to be the best thing about being a member

Thanks again
Blue1

Blue1

Blue1 Report 28 Feb 2013 15:05

I notice that wife Mary is now say Whitechapel! another one to add to the pot.

thanks again. I shall mark as answered

Blue1

Blue1

Blue1 Report 28 Feb 2013 16:01

Hi,

I'm having trouble finding the record above on Ancestry. I must be doing something wrong.

I have tried useing some of this info

RG number: HO107
Piece: 1562
Folio: 394
Page: 45
Reg. District: Bermondsey
Sub District: Leather Market
Parish: Bermondsey
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: Saint Mary Magdalen
City/Municipal Borough: Southwark
Address: 4, King Street, Bermondsey, Southwark
County: Surrey

But the family are still not showing. Does any one have any tips please on how I should search.

I've also tried entering all the details as laid out in the 1851 census choccy found but still no luck.

Thanks

Blue1

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 Feb 2013 16:06

Try Charles Lark...

Chris :)

Blue1

Blue1 Report 28 Feb 2013 16:08

Hi Chris,
found them,would you believe it!

Name: Charles Lark
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Lark
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalen
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 226
Piece: 1562
Folio: 394
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Lark 38
Mary Lark 35
Sophia Lark 14
Charles Lark 9
Mary Lark 7
John Lark 1