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William Fell - Napoleanic wars

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Flip

Flip Report 1 Mar 2013 14:55

Well, I'm grateful all for the input - I now have a story around the MI - and quite an interesting one thanks to you all. I'm going to follow up a bit more, but as the birth/marriage records are likely to be in Cartmel and pre-date the on-line available records will resort to the local RO.

Again, many thanks

Flip

Flip Report 1 Mar 2013 09:48

It would appear it was Dr Bernard Gilpin surgeon who paid for the headstone, unmarried and living in Ulverston 1841-1861 census, but died later in 1861. His probate names his nephew as the executor, effects under £4000.

Bernard Gilpin (retired surgeon of Ulverston)
Probate Date: 17 Jan 1862
Death Date: 28 Nov 1861
Death Place: Lancashire, England
Registry: Lancashire, England

Flip

Flip Report 1 Mar 2013 09:35

Thanks for the link Chris - that's an interesting find! So, he left his medal to Dr Gilpin of Ulverston - will take a look for him on the census.

Found neice Jane at the Ulverston workhouse in 1861, although age is wrong (33) it must be her, born Holker and deaf/dumb since birth - as she was in 1851.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Mar 2013 08:48

Leaving the army in 1821 after more than 12 years service William Fell returned to Backbarrow to work in a paper mill and later a Cotton Mill. In 1824 when claiming a pension in Dublin Fell stated that he was 'worn out with service'. He also worked as an armed guard on the local coach and as an old man made toffee and cakes for visitors to to the lakes, meeting them at Newby Bridge while wearing his medal. There is a full biography of him in CWAAS Transactions, 3rd Series, Vol IV.

(above from google, on below)


http://cumbrianwarmemorials.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05/peninsula-war-at-bassenthwaite-and.html

Chris :)

Flip

Flip Report 1 Mar 2013 07:09

Hi, sorry got dragged away last night. Many thanks for all the replies.

Had a better look at the military images (Thanks MC, very interesting). He enlisted 4/4/1809 age 27, and served until 22/8/1821 when he was discharged in Dublin. Wounded in Badajoz in 1812, and Orthes in 1814. He was a paper-maker.

So, I think Andrew's 1851 census is right, they are living in Backbarrow (very close to Haverthwaite where buried) and he is a widow. And the 1841 has them living Brow Edge, so looks like he married at some point to Mary.

Thought I'd found his christening in 5/10/1777, but on reflection think that is the other William posted by Trailertrash - he had a brother Richard ch 1783, so think it rules them out.

Think his christening would be in the Cartmel parish records, so will take another look.

Flip

Flip Report 28 Feb 2013 19:57

Hi, I'm sorry but we've got vistiors so am going off-line till tomorrow. I'll be back!!

Andrew

Andrew Report 28 Feb 2013 19:43

1841?

1841 England Census
about Jane Fell
Name: Jane Fell
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Cartmel
Hundred: Lonsdale (North of the Sands)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Ulverstone
Sub-registration district: Cartmel
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 528
Book: 7
Folio: 30
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
William Fell 55
Mary Fell 55
Jane Fell 15




Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 28 Feb 2013 19:41

Could be his death

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Jun 1852 (>99%)
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Fell William Ulverston 8e 420


Andy

Flip

Flip Report 28 Feb 2013 19:40

Still haven't read through MC's military records, but I think Andrew may have found the parish, Coulton is just outside Ulverston(e) and I think Brow Edge may have come under this parish looking at the geography!

trailertrash

trailertrash Report 28 Feb 2013 19:34

Is this him?

1841 Cartmel, Lower Allthwaite

William Fell 60 basket maker
Eliz wife
William 40 basket maker
Richard 30 land surveyor
Eliz 25
Eleanor 15

there is a John Fell 20 in the same house but no relationship shown and on the opposite census page, a Richard Fell 55 basket maker, maybe a brother?



Lesley

Flip

Flip Report 28 Feb 2013 19:34

Thanks MC, I'll read through the images. I've tried to find him on the 1851 census but no luck so far, although I had no idea of his birth age, so will look again.

It's just a change just to do something for fun - like trying to find a persons history and he must have been a bit of a character!

Poor sole, got severly wounded, then dangerously wounded, wonder if he was like Sharpe's side-kick (who I can't remember the name of) who had one eye and most of his face & teeth gone!

Andrew

Andrew Report 28 Feb 2013 19:33

1851 England Census
about William Fell
Name: William Fell
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780
Relation: Head
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Coulton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Colton
Ecclesiastical parish: Haverthwaite
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Ulverstone
Sub-registration district: Cartmel
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 2274
Folio: 213
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
William Fell 71 Papermaker, once a soldier
Jane Fell 27 niece

Andy


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Feb 2013 19:26

Flip - do you have access to the Lancashire parish records on Ancestry? If not, I do but haven't a clue which parish is which.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Feb 2013 19:07

??

British Army Service Records 1760-1915

First name(s): William
Last name: FELL
Calculated year of birth: 1782
Parish of birth: Cartmell
Town of birth: Ulverston
County of birth: Lancashire
Age at attestation: 27 years
Attestation date: 4 April 1809
Attestation corps:
Attestation soldier number:
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps: 52nd Regt Of Lt Infy
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 655 / 96

It's him! - There's a note that he was wounded at Badajoz in 1812.

Will read through the rest.

EDIT: Only 5 images so have sent to Flip by pm

Flip

Flip Report 28 Feb 2013 18:56

Hi all,

When tracing my family history I came across a gravestone propped up against St Anne's church in Heversham, Cumbria (previously in Lancashire) for William Fell, who was buried there 27/6/1852. I've decided (for no reason other than to try to find his history) to try to find out who he was and if he had family. MI was most interesting and reads as follows:

"Requiescat in Pace
WILLIAM FELL
A soldier of the 52nd(?) light infantry
who fought in that galant regiment at
POMBAL - ALMEDIA
On the plains of Condillia
at SABUGAL - BUSACO - EUENTES D ONOR
at the seige and storming of
CUIDAD RODRIGO (a volunteer)
BADAJOZ (severly wounded)
SALAMANCA
VITTORIA
and
ORTHES (which I think should be Orthez)
dangerously wounded
Was born Brow edge and buried
on 27th June 1852 in Haverthwaite church yard.

BG to whom he left his medal
of six clasps dedicates to
British Valour this humble stone."

I've watched the Sharp series (and been to most of the places mentioed)and would love to know more about him.

If anyone cares to help I would be really grateful! :-D