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Thanks again for taking the time to look for me, much appreciated.
karen

Karen

You are very welcome!!


I did not manage to find out anything more about Charlotte ............. and I did also look under Caroline as well ;-)




sylvia

Wow, what can I say, but thanks to all of you for the research you have done for me, it will certainly give me something to mull over and put all the pieces together. All intriguing, especially the "changing" of Charlottes name on the census, I am picturing the family dispute and heated arguments!
Many thanks once again.
Karen

Charlotte



and the trail seems to end with her birth registration and the 1911 Census



I have to go out now .................. I'll try searching more later.





sylvia

Alfred

?????


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Joseph Alfred Anderton

Name: Joseph Alfred Anderton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1907
Registration district: King's Norton
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 443


The Public Family Tree has this marriage and death for Alfred .............. ??? correct


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Alfred J Anderton

Name: Alfred J Anderton
Spouse Surname: Dunbar
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1931
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 793
Find Spouse:

Spouse:- Beatrice M Dunbar


apparently 1 child, born 1938



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Alfred J Anderton

Name: Alfred J Anderton
Birth Date: abt 1908
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1939
Age at Death: 31
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 287





sylvia

Leslie

????


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about James Leslie Anderton

Name: James Leslie Anderton
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1906
Registration district: King's Norton
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 477


???? his death


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Leslie James Anderton

Name: Leslie James Anderton
Birth Date: 23 Mar 1906
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1973
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 941



That tree on ancestry has him marrying in 1934 .........

If true ......................

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Leslie J Anderton

Name: Leslie J Anderton
Spouse Surname: Dubberley
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1934
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 390
Find Spouse:

Spouse:- Doris E M Dubberley


from the tree ...............

Doris E M Dubberley
Birth abt 1910
Death Jun 1950 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England



At least 3 children

Children ........................



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Thomas William Anderton

Name: Thomas William Anderton
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1902
Registration district: King's Norton
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 492


????


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about William T Anderton

Name: William T Anderton
Birth Date: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1967
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 185



I wonder if this could be his marriage????


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about William T Anderton

Name: William T Anderton
Spouse Surname: Burgess
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1927
Registration district: Birmingham South
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 373
Find Spouse:

Spouse:- Louisa Burgess


BUT there are marriage records for several other William T Andertons in both the Birmingham and Smethwick registry districts ........ so much searching may be needed!





England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Gladys Alice Anderton

Name: Gladys Alice Anderton
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904
Registration district: King's Norton
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 499


??? her marriage (note the misspelling of Gladys surname on Robert's entry)

Marriages Mar 1927 (>99%)

ANDERTON Gladys A Bibb W.Bromwich 6b 1059
BIBB Robert B Anierton W.Bromwich 6b 1059


from a tree on ancestry (not checked)


Robert Baden Bibb
Birth Jan 1901 in Oldbury, Worcestershire
Death



???? her death


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Gladys Bibb

Name: Gladys Bibb
Birth Date: abt 1904
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1931
Age at Death: 27
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1118



apparently no children



sylvia

Enjoyed it, PH!!!

Thankyou for double checking that for me Sylvia.

did they change her name, or did one of them not know what they were calling the new baby? :-)

and yes, that birth registration does look like hers


Births Jun 1911 (>99%)

Anderton Caroline G King's N. 6c 435



The 1911 Census was held on the night of Sunday, 2 April 1911



If she was 2 months old, that looks as though she was born in February, and registered after April 1 (June quarter being for registrations in April, May and June)

He also first wrote Caroline (or ?? Carella) Anderton, then crossed out Caroline, and Charlotte Gertrude was written in, in what looks like a different hand ............... definitley a different pen


Similarly, the name of the Boarder was first written as Mary Ann Seymour, then crossed out, and the same different pen and ??hand wrote in Mary Ann Seymore

This is the ancestry transcription for Charlotte

Name: Charlotte Gertrude Anderton
Age in 1911: 2/12 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Smethwick, Staffordshire
Civil parish: Smethwick
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 68 Bampton Rd, Smethwick
Registration district: Kings Norton


looking at the image ........................... whoever filled out the census form first put 1 in the male age column, the scribbled it, and put 2 months in the female column

Looking at the 1911 image.........i think that "Charlotte Gertrude's" age of 1 has been amended to read..........age 2 months.

And on closer inspection..........i think she is actually..........

Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
Anderton Caroline G King's N. 6c 435

Does anyone else agree with that??

could this be Florence's death???


Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%)

Anderton Florence 0 Kings N. 6d 175

A Public Family Tree on ancestry has this information ...................




Thomas Anderton
Birth Apr 1880 in Handsworth, Staffordshire, England
Death Jun 1927 in Birmingham South, Warwickshire, England


This is presumably the reference they have used .........


from freebmd


Deaths Jun 1927 (>99%)

Anderton Thomas A 47 Birmingham South 6d 11





sylvia

It seems another Daughter was born in 1914..........

Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
ANDERTON Florence Hunt Kings N. 6d 286

For a clearer picture, here is the FMP version.......

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: ANDERTON, Thomas
Address: 68 Bampton Road Smethwick

ANDERTON, Thomas Head Married10 years M 31 1880 Labourer Brass Works Chandelier Makers Handsworth Staffs VIEW
ANDERTON, Henrietta Wife Married10 years F 31 1880 Smethwick Staffs VIEW
ANDERTON, William T Son M 8 1903 School Smethwick Staffs VIEW
ANDERTON, Gladys A Daughter F 6 1905 School Smethwick Staffs VIEW
ANDERTON, Leslie J Son M 5 1906 Smethwick Staffs VIEW
ANDERTON, Alfred J Son M 3 1908 Smethwick Staffs VIEW
ANDERTON, Charlotte Gertrude Daughter F 1 (12 MONTHS) 1910 Smethwick Staffs VIEW
SEYMORE, Mary Ann Boarder Widow F 62 1849 Bromsgrove Worth VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 17977
Reference: RG14PN17977 RG78PN1094 RD383 SD4 ED35 SN309
Registration District: Kings Norton
Sub District: Smethwick
Enumeration District: 35
Parish: Smethwick
Address: 68 Bampton Road Smethwick
County: Worcestershire

For what it’s worth - In 1911, Mary Ann Seymore, the boarder was a widow and born in Bromsgrove, Worcs. Y.O.B c1849.

She's not jumping off the page in any other census.

That could well be Henrietta's death, the registration district for Smethwick was Kings Norton, if so she didn't have too long a life after the last census, and all those young children too, but I suppose that was very common then, she was my grandfathers sister so maybe at last I have found out about another family member - thanks.