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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Mar 2013 13:53

Ok.........i was just wondering if in fact the death of Ernest Frederick Brockman in 1799 was the one born in 1760.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Mar 2013 13:42

Linked

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1320595

Karl

Karl Report 4 Mar 2013 13:10

Hi yes u are for ernest fredrick brockman b1760 d1841? 1799 ? im starting to thinking this may be a german family line & the use of frederick & suger baker keeps coming up in another family c1800 where the name changes to brockmann !

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Mar 2013 17:55

Going back to your OP Karl......

Would i be correct in reading that you have.......

Ernest Frederick Brockman born 1760.... died 1841?

If so, i am not seeing a death for an Ernest Frederick Brockman in 1841?



Karl

Karl Report 3 Mar 2013 14:33

Hi PricklyHolly
you can see the fustration i have with makeing a link with the past and distant present in this case ernest f brockman b1761,hopeing for that one clue may be it be his father /g/f or kin in another tree. Regards Karl

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Mar 2013 14:10

1851 England Census
about Thomas D Baker
Name: Thomas D Baker
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susannah Baker
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Tower of London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 2f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 241
Piece: 1544
Folio: 209
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas D Baker 55 (Shoe Maker)
Susannah Baker 53 (Launderess) Spitalfields


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Mar 2013 13:58

It seems that witness Susanna Baker on Ann Mary Brockman's marriage record is her Sister.

Susannah's first marriage........

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Susannah Brockman
Name: Susannah Brockman (Spinster)
Spouse Name: George Michael Reis (Widower)
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 5 Oct 1828
Parish: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register


Her second marriage......


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Daniel Baker
Name: Thomas Daniel Baker (Widower) Shoemaker
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Susannah Reis (Widow) Res: Cold Bath Lane
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Jul 1839
Parish: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Thomas Baker (Weaver)
Spouse Father Name: Ernest Brockman (Sugar Baker)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: William Godby and William Jackson







Karl

Karl Report 3 Mar 2013 13:55

2 Postings ! because ive done my Brockman line back to one father and now comeing forward im trying to link 2 diffrent sets of brockmans familys with mine with out confusing people !!!!!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Mar 2013 13:10

In case this is relevant......

London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
about Ernest Frederick Brockman
Name: Ernest Frederick Brockman
Burial Date: 13 Jan 1799
Parish: St Mary, Whitechapel
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets


I'm not seeing any other info for Ernest Frederick Brockman.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Mar 2013 13:02

London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
about Susanna Brackman
Name: Susanna Brackman
Baptism Date: 25 Oct 1799
Parish: St Martin Vintry
County: London
Borough: City of London
Parent(s): Frederick Brockman...........Ernest Frederick on the image
Ann Brockman
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register



Another Son..........

??

London, England, Extracted Parish Records
about Ernst Henry Ernst Frederick Brockman Ann
Text: 15 Jan 1789 Ernst Henry s. Ernst Frederick Brockman & Ann his wife, born 08 Dec 1788
Book: Baptisms & Chrisenings.
Collection: London: All Hallows, Bread Street & St. John the Evangelist - Parish Registers, 1538-1851



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Mar 2013 12:31

1861 England Census
about Ann Mary Withy
Name: Ann Mary Withy
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name:
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Spitalfields
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Piece: 265
Folio: 106
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John Withy 58 (Shoe Maker)
Ann Mary Withy 66


1871 England Census
about John Withy
Name: John Withy
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Withy
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Christchurch Spitalfields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Spitalfields
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 32
Piece: 506
Folio: 5
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
John Withy 69 (ShoeMaker)
Ann Withy 75




PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Mar 2013 12:21

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Ann Mary Brockman
Name: Ann Mary Brockman (Spinster)
Spouse Name: John Withey (Widower) Shoemaker
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Sep 1844
Parish: Bethnal Green St Philip
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Ernest Henry Brockman (Sugar Baker)
Spouse Father Name: John Withey (Rope Maker)
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Thomas Daniel Baker and Susanna Baker

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Mar 2013 12:19

Is this Ann.......Nee Fielding in 1841??

1841 England Census
about Ann Brockman
Name: Ann Brockman
Age: 80
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1761
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Stepney
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 711
Book: 5
Folio: 42
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Brockman 80
Ann Brockman 45

It seems John George had another Sister......

Pallot's Baptism Index for England: 1780 - 1837
about Anne Mary Mary Brockman
Name: Anne Mary Brockman
Baptism Date: 1794
Parent 1: Ernest Fredk Brockman
Parent 2: AnneBrockman
Parish: Christchurch
County: Newgate, London


London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
about John George Friderich
Name: John George Friderich
[John George Brockman]
Baptism Date: 26 Jun 1791
Parish: Christ Church, Newgate Street
County: London
Borough: City of London
Parent(s): Erenst Friderich,
Ann Brockman
Record Type: Christening
Register Type: Parish Register






Karl

Karl Report 3 Mar 2013 12:12

Hi i see what your saying but this is diffrent family but like the last one it was only one person to link that familys decendants to my tree of some 550 brockmans which i did in 2007/08 now i have time again i want to link the missing margate & east end famileys to mine which go back to 1370.
so a littel help to find the f,gf & may be the ggf of ernest fredrick brockman b c1760 to make the connection, i hope this explains things to all & many thanks Karl

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Mar 2013 11:30

Hi Karl

In what way can we help you to link another Brockman family to your tree?

Exactly what information are you looking for?

The reason i ask, is because a lot information was posted on the Brockman thread that you posted yesterday.........and when you returned to the thread over two hours later, it seems you already had most of that information anyway.

To save us time looking for information that you already have...........perhaps you could let us know exactly what you are hoping to find.

It is always best to stay online for a short while after you have posted a thread so that you can answer any questions that might arise. :-)

Karl

Karl Report 3 Mar 2013 11:22

looking for ancestors help to link another brockman family to my tree john george brockman b1791 St Martins Le Grand, City, London. sister susanna b14.2,1798 london. father ernest fredrick brockman b c1760 d1841 wife ann fielding b c1761 east london ? d1843 marage 27.1.1788 St Giles, Cripplegate. many thanks karl