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Dopeydoc

Dopeydoc Report 7 Mar 2013 10:30

Can any-one please help with this query,

ANY INFORMATION ON BELOW,

Lucile Lichtstern married James ? oct 6 1909 Chicago, U S A

HER FATHER, Adolph Julius Lichtstern married , Marion Richey ,

DAUGHTER of, Rev.Theophilus Stinson.

Marriages, Where, Date. ?

Death, Where buried ?

Hoping . THANK YOU
:-) :-) :-)

safc

safc Report 7 Mar 2013 10:34

name: J. Marrow Oxley
titles and terms:
race (original):
race:
age: 26
birth year (estimated): 1883
birth date: 1883
birthplace:
spouse's name: Lucile Lichtstem
spouse's titles and terms:
spouse's race (original):
spouse's race:
spouse's age: 25
spouse's birth year (estimated): 1884
spouse's birth date: 1884
spouse's birthplace:
license type: Marriage
event date: 06 Oct 1909
event place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
marriage intention date:
marriage intention place:
father's name:
father's titles and terms:
mother's name:
mother's titles and terms:
spouse's father's name:
spouse's father's titles and terms:
spouse's mother's name:
spouse's mother's titles and terms:
marital status:
previous wife's name:
spouse's marital status:
spouse's previous husband's name:
paternal grandfather's name:
paternal grandmother's name:
maternal grandfather's name:
maternal grandmother's name:
spouse's paternal grandfather's name:
spouse's paternal grandmother's name:
spouse's maternal grandfather's name:
spouse's maternal grandmother's name:
additional relatives:
gs film number: 1030466
frame number:
digital folder number: 4271134
image number: 377
reference id: 518949

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Mar 2013 10:35

Cook County, Illinois, Deaths Index, 1878-1922
about Lucile Lichtstern Oxley
Name: Lucile Lichtstern Oxley
Birth Date: 22 Feb 1884
Birth Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Death Date: 9 May 1911
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Burial Date: 11 May 1911
Cemetery Name: Rose Hill
Death Age: 27
Occupation: Housewife
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Female
Street Address: 3736 Michigan Ave, 3 Ward
Father Name: Adolph Lichtstern
Father Birth Place: Germany
Mother Birth Place: Germany
FHL Film Number: 1239895

Andy

Adeline

Adeline Report 7 Mar 2013 10:40

Have a look at familysearch.org

Adolph J. Lichtstern married Marion Richey
12 Feb 1901Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Adolph J. Lichtstern birth: 17 Apr 1862;1862 Berlin, Germany
death: 06 Jul 1928 Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Adolph J. Lichtstern parents: Bernhard Lichtern, Bertha Tiktin

Dopeydoc

Dopeydoc Report 7 Mar 2013 11:33

Those who have supplied INFO, a great THANK YOU .

Your a great crowd, You are all appreciated !

Dave and Family friends :-) :-) :-)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Mar 2013 18:38

Dave... ...Was Adolph married twice do you know...??

There was a Mr and Mrs Adolph J Lichstern (aged 30 and 28 respectively) both US Cits. sailed out of Liverpool on the Majestic arriving NY April 29 1892.he was listed as a "Gent"...dont know how common the "names" are..the manifest gave no further details.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Mar 2013 23:42

Looks like his first wife was Julia:

"United States Census, 1900"

name: Adolph Lichtstern
event place: ED 104 Precinct 25 South Town Chicago city Ward 4, Cook, Illinois, United States
birth date: Apr 1862
birthplace: Germany
relationship to head of household: Head
father's birthplace: Germany
mother's birthplace: Germany
race: White
gender: Male
marital status: Married
years married: 17
marriage year (estimated): 1883
immigration year: 1865
page: 8 sheet letter: A family number: 92 reference id: 41
gs film number: 1240248
digital folder number: 004113704
image number: 00393

Household
Gender Age Birthplace
head Adolph Lichtstern M 38 Germany - Stock commissioner
wife Julia Lichtstern F 35 Indiana
daughter Lucile Lichtstern F 16 Illinois
servant Katie Murray F 41 Ireland
servant A Frederickson F 51 Norway
servant Hanah Petersen F 35 Sweden
servant Kate Tighe F 50 Scotland
coachman James Donovan M 33 Ireland
coachman James Wilson M 30 Scotland
coachman W Montgomery M 32 Illinois

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Mar 2013 23:57

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925

NAME: Adolph J Lichtstern
BIRTH: 17 Apr 1863 - Berlin, Germany
CIVIL: 26 Sep 1904
RESIDENCE: Chicago, Illinois

Born 17 April 1862 in Berlin. Arrived from Hamburg 15 January 1866.

Naturalized Cook County Illinnois 23 September 1904.

Was living 3736 Michigan Avenue and was a grain and stock broker.

No photograph but gives a detailed description of his appearance:

Height: 5' 8"
Forehead: Medium
Eyes: Blue
Nose: Jewish
Mouth: (Can't make out what it says)
Chin: Dimpled
Hair: Dark, nearly black
Complexion: Dark
Face: Rather thin

................................................................................................................

There's a previous application in 1891 for him and his then wife Julia. No maiden name given but she was born 24 October 1865 at Columbia City, Indiana.

In 1891 he described his occupation as Capitalist.


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 8 Mar 2013 08:35

Morning MarieCeleste...
That was a shot in the dark on my part..!! Thanks for the info.
Now the next question is..What was he doing in the UK...???
Love his occupation (1891)...!!

Looks like Julia's maiden name was Sandmeyer

name: Adolph Lichtstein
spouse's name: Julia Sandmeyer
event date: 22 Mar 1883
event place: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
father's name: Bernhard Lichtstein
mother's name: Bertha Lichtstein
spouse's father's name: Adolph Sandmeyer
spouse's mother's name: Henriette Sandmeyer


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 8 Mar 2013 09:54

Julia and family.....

1880 Census (1870 Census shows he is listed as a Drug Merchant)

name: Adolf Sandmeyer
event type: Census
event date: 1880
event place: Columbia City, Whitley, Indiana, United States
gender: Male
age: 44
marital status: Married
occupation: Physician
race (original):
ethnicity: American
relationship to head of household: Self
birthplace: Germany
birth date: 1836
spouse's name: Henrietta Sandmeyer
spouse's birthplace: Germany

father's birthplace: Germany
mother's birthplace: Germany

Household Gender Age Birthplace
self Adolf Sandmeyer M 44 Germany
wife Henrietta Sandmeyer F 35 Germany
son Adolph Sandmeyer M 15 Indiana, United States
daughter Julia Sandmeyer F 14 Indiana, United States
son William Sandmeyer M 13 Indiana, United States

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Mar 2013 13:21

I think this must have been the reason for the 1904 passport application - the ages are way out but it's just too much of a coincidence with the names.:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: A J Lichtstern
Birth Date: abt 1846
Age: 58
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 10 Oct 1904
Port of Arrival: Plymouth, England
Ship Name: Kaiser Wilhelm II
Shipping Line: Norddeutscher Lloyd

He was travelling with Mrs (52), Lucille (23) and Bertha (28)

No occupations or addresses given.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Mar 2013 13:28

I know the passport application said he had dark skin but I think the transcription of negro on the 1920 is a mistake:

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: A T Lichtstern [A G Lichtstern] [A G Lichtstern]
Age: 57
Birth Year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1920: Deerfield, Lake, Illinois
Race: Negro (Black) [White]
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1875
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Ritchie Lichtstern
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:

Household Members: Name Age
A T Lichtstern 57 - Broker (board of trade)
Ritchie Lichtstern 42 - born Canada
Matilda Bevilaqua 30
Eric Sparre 30
Lena Lando 22
Gertie Anderson 22
Ellen Peterson 27
Thos Dunnerman 49
Chris Real 44
Agnes Real 37
Heloy Peterson 25
Ephriam Johnson 57

(The rest of the household are servants)

Looks like Marian is using her maiden surname.

The ages are hard to make out as the image is faint and has been written over.

Living Sheridan Street


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Mar 2013 17:48

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)

Name: Adolph J Lichtstern
Residence Year: 1889
Street Address: 14 ggrA
Residence Place: Chicago, Illinois
Publication Title: Chicago, Illinois, City Directory, 1889

Worked James A Murphy & co at 14 Rookery Building.
Home 2438 Michigan Ave.
..................................................................................................................

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)

Name: Adolph J Lichtstern
Residence Year: 1899
Street Address: 3736 Michigan av (home address)
Residence Place: Chicago, Illinois
Publication Title: Chicago, Illinois, City Directory, 1899

Now working as Adolph J Lichtstern (Brokers) & Co at the Rookery.

His widowed mother Bertha living 3740 Michigan Av.
.................................................................................................................

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)

Name: Adolph J Lichtstern
Residence Year: 1907
Street Address: 207 Lasalle 112195
Residence Place: Chicago, Illinois
Occupation: Adolph J Lichtstern & Co (Brokers)
Publication Title: Chicago, Illinois, City Directory, 1907
...........................................................................................................

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)

Name: Adolph J Lichtstern
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1922
Street Address: Glenmarion
Residence Place: Waukegan, Illinois
Occupation: Broker (Chicago)
Spouse: Marion Lichtstern
Publication Title: Waukegan, Illinois, City Directory, 1922

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 8 Mar 2013 17:57

Evening MarieCeleste...Dont know who Dave is researching the family for but we are into the Mega Bucks Elite of Chicago Soc. Listed in the Chicago Blue Book.....
Will post link for actual NYT Article.

BID FOR LICHTSTERN'S GRAIN.; Chicago Broker Refuses Offer for 5,000,000 Bushels Cash Wheat.

Permissions
.Special to The New York Times. ();
November 07, 1911,


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F0061EFF395517738DDDAE0894D9415B818DF1D3

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Mar 2013 18:14

Evening EGB!

Do hope Dave comes back on THIS thread .......

A bit about Marian's father:

Protestant Episcopal Church Clerical Directory, 1898

Name: Theophilus Stinson Richey
Residence in 1898: Milwaukee Wis.
Birth Place: Canada
Year became Deacon: 1863

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 8 Mar 2013 18:15

Love this...From Chicago Blue Book 1895


The family had "Receiving Days"...1st and 3rd Thursdays...

Mr and Mrs AJ Lichtstern 3736 Michegan Ave.
Mrs Bertha Lichtstern and daughters 3740 Michegan Ave.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Mar 2013 18:15

Cook County, Illinois, Deaths Index, 1878-1922
Name: Theophilus S Richey
Birth Date: abt 1840
Birth Place: Canada
Death Date: 24 Apr 1909
Death Place: Wilmette, Cook, Illinois
Burial Date: 27 Apr 1909
Burial Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Death Age: 69
Occupation: Priest Episcopal Church
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Male
FHL Film Number: 1239959

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Mar 2013 18:18

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)

Name: Theophilus S Richey
Residence Year: 1897
Street Address: 274 24th
Residence Place: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Publication Title: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, City Directory, 1897

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Mar 2013 18:21

1900 United States Federal Census

Name: Reverend T S Richey [Reverend T S Roy Richey]
Age: 60
Birth Date: May 1840
Birthplace: Canada [Canada English]
Home in 1900: Milwaukee Ward 19, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1883
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Maria Richey
Marriage Year: 1862
Years Married: 38
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation: Clergyman

Household Members:
Name Age
T S Richey 60 b Canada
Maria Richey 60 b Canada
Georgina B Richey 18 b Canada
James J Richey 8 b Minnesota
Winnie M Richey 6 b Minnesota

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Mar 2013 18:26

Marriage of his son gives Maria's maiden name as Busby:

Theophilus H. Richey, "Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930"

name: Theophilus H. Richey
birthplace: Kentville, Nova Scotia
spouse's name: Bert Cushing
spouse's birthplace: Buckingham, Canada
event date: 24 Nov 1898
event place: Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin
father's name: T. S. Richey
mother's name: Maria T. Busby
spouse's father's name: Lemuel H. Cushing
spouse's mother's name: Alexanderina Alkinson
race: White

indexing project (batch) number: M00353-4
system origin: Wisconsin-EASy
gs film number: 1275833
reference id: 1275833 file 00815

Citing this Record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XRPH-1Q2