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Doris Ethel Tyson

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blackrose

blackrose Report 7 Mar 2013 14:36

looking for birth and parental details of above for a friend. He said she was born London on 28th February 1913 but I can't find a match. she married William Arthur Rudrum in 1956. I would be grateful for any help

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Mar 2013 14:41

??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Doris E Tyson
Name: Doris E Tyson
Mother's Maiden Name: Tyson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913
Registration district: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 2023

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Mar 2013 14:41

Was Tyson definitely her birth name? 43 was rather old for a first marriage

Or is it taken from the GRO marriage record?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Mar 2013 14:45

According to her death entry.........she was Edith Doris???

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Edith Doris Rudrum
Name: Edith Doris Rudrum
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1913
Date of Registration: Nov 1984
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Surrey North-western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 17
Page: 624

blackrose

blackrose Report 7 Mar 2013 14:48

Hi Reggie, marriage record from ancestry and my friend confirmed this. He was born at the end of 1956. Prickly Holly I saw this entry but my friend Ken is adamant that Doris birthday was 28th Feb 1913 and I thought births had to be registered within a certain timescale

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Mar 2013 14:51

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Doris E Tyson
Name: Doris E Tyson
Spouse Name: William A.Rudrum
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1956
Registration district: Surrey North Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 5g
Page Number: 1543

blackrose

blackrose Report 7 Mar 2013 14:53

thank you so much for this Prickly Holly pretty sure that's the right one as definitely in surrey at time of death

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Mar 2013 14:57

The GRO record only gives the name in use at the time of the marriage

The MMN on the 1956 birth record is Rudrum

Interestingly, there is an identical birth reg'n in 1948

Births have to be registered within 6 weeks

Your friend could have been given inaccurate info about his mother's birthday

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Mar 2013 14:59

Deaths Jun 1963 (>99%)
RUDRUM WILLIAM A 61 SURREY S.W. 5G 899


Births Sep 1901 (>99%)
RUDRUM William Arthur Greenwich 1d 1096

Reggie

Reggie Report 7 Mar 2013 14:59

The DOB on the death entry is only as per the info given to the Registrar by the infomant

safc

safc Report 7 Mar 2013 15:02

????

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Tyson Ethel D Tyson Wandsworth 1d 1398

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Mar 2013 15:05

This birth entry appears on FreeBMD........March Qtr


Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Tyson Ethel D Tyson Wandsworth 1d 1398

blackrose

blackrose Report 7 Mar 2013 15:07

Reggie several years ago Ken told me that his mother was in actual fact also his half sister. He wasn't told about this until he was an adult and he seemed very confused! i'm starting to wish I'd not taken this on for him

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Mar 2013 15:12

Maybe it was just a simple case of her name entered on the marriage cert as...

Doris E.........instead of.......Ethel D.

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Mar 2013 15:17

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about William Arthur Rudrum
Name: William Arthur Rudrum
Probate Date: 30 Aug 1963
Death Date: 30 Mar 1963
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London, England

to Doris Ethel Rudrum, widow
of 61 Claremont Road West, Byfleet
Effects £176 19s

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Mar 2013 15:22

??

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Ethel Doris Tyson
Name: Ethel Doris Tyson
Year: 1938
County or Borough: Lewisham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Lewisham
Street Address: 23 Fransfield Grove



Andy

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Mar 2013 15:24

Gosh!! :-D

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Mar 2013 15:25

Related?

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Florence Tyson
Name: Florence Tyson
Year: 1938
County or Borough: Lewisham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Lewisham
Street Address: 23 Fransfield Grove



Andy

blackrose

blackrose Report 8 Mar 2013 11:35

thank you Andy I'd got the probate info and agree Prickly Holly she perhaps swapped the Doris and Ethel around during her life; perhaps Edith on death certificate
was a mistake either by informant or registrar. I need to try and find her parents now but at this point I don't want to send of for certificates as its not for myself

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Mar 2013 11:39

if thats the right birth then looks like her mum was single

copied from above
Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Tyson Ethel D Tyson Wandsworth 1d 1398