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i'm rubbish at this!

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donna

donna Report 7 Mar 2013 19:37

i am trying to find any information and any links to my nan and grandad joan mary elizabeth monk born 26.11.1923 in east ham. died 14.05.1973. her dads name was nathaniel john monk. married in 1955 to eric william knight. that is everything i know about her.
my grandad is eric william knight born 30.12.1913. died january 2003 ish.
they lived their married life in hornchurch essex and had 2 sons (andrew and david)
i am really struggling to get a lead and am not sure what to do as i can't find them in any records.
if any1 has them in their tree please help me! thank you.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Mar 2013 19:40

to see if anyone has them in their tree you need to look under Search Trees which is under the Search box next to News heading

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Mar 2013 19:41

look on FreeBMD for her birth it will give her mmn then you can look foe her parents and possible siblings

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Mar 2013 19:42

Do you know about FreeBMD ?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Find the birth of Joan on that site and that will give you the mothers maiden name and that will help with the search for the parents marriage

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Mar 2013 19:44

to start you off

civil Registration event: Birth

Name: MONK, Joan M E
Registration district: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of registration: 1924
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Powell
Volume no: 4A
Page no: 424

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Mar 2013 19:44

1911 no idea if relevant or not at the moment

Name: Nathaniel John Monk
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Walthamstow E
Civil parish: East Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 81 Cleves Road, East Ham
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Van Guard
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: South East Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 262
Piece: 9521
Household Members: Name Age
Nathaniel Monk 38
Elizabeth Marth Monk 37
Louisa Elizabeth Monk 17
Nathaniel John Monk 15
Sarah Ann Monk 14
Mary Ann Monk 12
Eliza Violet Monk 10
William Thomas Monk 7
Nellie Louise Monk 5
Elizabeth Martha Monk 2

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Mar 2013 19:45

Sometimes births in December are not registered unitl the following quarter


Mother's maiden name : Cragg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Births Mar 1914 -
KNIGHT Eric W - Cragg - Romford 4a 1185



His death

Name: Eric William Knight
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1913
Date of Registration: Jan 2004
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Havering
Inferred County: Essex

Penny

Penny Report 7 Mar 2013 19:46

any iea what Joans mothers name was?

there is a nathaniel monk marrying in 1895 to an Alice or an Elizabeth.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Mar 2013 19:46

MarriageFinder: Nathaniel J Monk married Ethel M Powell
Name: MONK, Nathaniel J
Registration district: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of registration: 1919
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Powell
Volume no: 4A
Page no: 413

spouse
Name: POWELL, Ethel M
Registration district: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of registration: 1919
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Monk
Volume no: 4A
Page no: 413

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Mar 2013 19:46

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
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Kelsey James H Seaman W. Ham 4a 413
MONK Nathaniel J Powell W Ham 4a 413
Powell Ethel M Monk W.Ham 4a 413
Seaman Daisy B Kelsey W.Ham 4a 413

donna

donna Report 7 Mar 2013 19:47

thank you everyone i will go and try those tips out now. much appreciated!

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Mar 2013 19:47

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

Name: Nathaniel John Monk
Residence: 96 Cleves Road, East Ham E
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 5263
Regiment Name: Garrison Bn R War R Battn The Essex Regt
Number of images: 22

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Mar 2013 19:49

UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920

Name: Nathaniel John Monk
Discharge Unit: R.A.S.C.
Regiment Number: R/406269
Rank: Pte.
Badge Number: 467545
Unit: Royal Army Service Corps (Woolwich)
Piece: 3228
List Number: RASC 4851-5100
Record Group: WO
Record Class: 329


This was given to soldiers that had to leave the army so they could prove they served their time

Kay????

Kay???? Report 7 Mar 2013 19:50

Here is lead from Joans birth that will help you.


Her mother was a Powell,, Ethel M,,she married Nathaniel J Monk in 1919,West Ham.from a marriage match of both surname.

Look now for any more Monk births with the mothers maiden name as Powell they could be possbile siblings to Joan.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Mar 2013 19:57

Any questions that you have just ask as the helpers on the boards will help

donna

donna Report 7 Mar 2013 20:02

thank you so much, i can't believe how quick you did that! ive been on here for a week going round in circles. lol just being cheeky but can you help me get started on eric william knight too please. born 30.12.1913 lived in romford his dads name was william george knight.
thank you once again for your help.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 7 Mar 2013 20:05

Okay so look back up the thread and Mike has posted a possible birth for Eric.

Thats gives the mothers maiden name

Go to Freebmd on the link I gave you and then using both surnames in the search boxes to see if you can find a possible marriage for the parents

Or just put in the name of the father and see what you find.

Lot more interesting to have a go your self

Come back if any problems

Maureen

donna

donna Report 7 Mar 2013 20:15

thanks, thats great. you have given me hope again!! lol.

mgnv

mgnv Report 8 Mar 2013 11:09

Just tidying up, here:

First Name:ERIC WILLIAM
Last Name:KNIGHT
Gender:M
Year:2004
Birth Year:1913
Birth Month:12
Birth Day:30
District:HAVERING
County:Essex
Country:England
Volume:
Event Quarter:1 [Month, not quarter, really]
District Number:234/1
Page:
Line Number:
Entry Number:233
DOR:104

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Mar 2013 12:44

Donna

You might find it useful to read some of the threads on Genealogy Chat which give advice and tips about researching