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Harry Partridge dob 1878? died 1976

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patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 15:21

1861 England Census
William Turner Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Turner
Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle Under Lyme
Civil parish: Hitchin County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England
Street Address: Great Northern railway cottages
Occupation: fitter
Registration district: Hitchin Sub-registration district: Hitchin
ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 99 Piece: 818 Folio: 73 Page Number: 22
William Turner 35
Ann Turner 31
Ann Turner 5 Islington
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 818; Folio: 73; Page: 22; GSU roll: 542706.

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 15:18

This could explain why she married in Cambridge even though she and her mother were born in London on censuses:
1871 England Census
Ann Turner Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Turner
Mother's name: Ann Turner
Gender: Female Where born: London, England
Civil parish: St Andrew the Less Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 100 Piece: 1587
Folio: 60 Page Number: 19
William Turner 47 Porter G N R Newcastle Northumberland
Ann Turner 41
Ann Turner 15
John Hills 22
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1587; Folio: 60; Page: 19; GSU roll: 829807.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Mar 2013 14:56

Day:26
Month:Aug
Year:1875
Groom forename:Albert
Groom surname:COURSE
Groom's residence:of Norwich St
Groom's condition:bac
Groom's occupation:packer
Groom's age:24
Groom's father's forename:William
Groom's father's surname:
Groom's father's occupation:lab
Bride forename:Anne
Bride surname:TURNER
Bride's residence:of Norwich St
Bride's condition:sp
Bride's occupation:[blank]
Bride's age:20
Bride's father's forename:William
Bride's father's surname:
Bride's father's occupation:fitter
By Licence:by banns
Place:Cambridge, St Paul
County:Cambridgeshire,England
Witness 1 forename:Henry
Witness 1 surname:BENNER
Witness 2 forename:Sarah (x)
Witness 2 surname:BENNER

(bit more on above, if any help!)

Chris :)


Births Mar 1851 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------
Course Albert N Witchford 14 138

(his Baptism, 1853 Little Eversden)

1851
COURSE, William Head Married M 27 1824 Ag Lab
Eversdan, Cambridgeshire
COURSE, Sarah Wife Married F 27 1824 Ag Lab
Royston, Huntingdonshire
COURSE, Laura Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848
Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire
COURSE, Albert Son Unmarried M 0 (2 MOS) 1851
Benwick, Cambridgeshire
Piece: 1765
Folio: 543
Page: 21
Registration District: North Witchford
Civil Parish: Benwick
Municipal Borough:
Address: Puttock Toll, Benwick
County: Cambridgeshire

1861
COURSE, William Head Married M 37 1824 Labourer
Little Eversden, Cambridgeshire
COURSE, Sarah Wife F 37 1824
Roydon, Hertfordshire (Royston)
COURSE, Albert Son Unmarried M 10 1851 Scholar
..., Cambridgeshire (Benwick)
COURSE, Fanny Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar
Little Eversden, Cambridgeshire
COURSE, Louisa Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar
Little Eversden, Cambridgeshire
COURSE, Janett Daughter F 2 1859 Scholar
Little Eversden, Cambridgeshire
Piece: 1024
Folio: 22
Page: 37
Registration District: Cambridge
Civil Parish: St Andrew the Less
Municipal Borough: Cambridge
Address: 8, Smarts Row, St Andrew The Less, Cambridge
County: Cambridgeshire

1871
COURSE, William Head M 48 1823 Cambridgeshire
COURSE, Sarah Wife F 48 1823 Hertfordshire
COURSE, Albert H Son M 20 1851 Cambridgeshire
COURSE, Janette Daughter F 12 1859 Cambridgeshire
Piece: 1586
Folio: 77
Page: 15
Registration District: Cambridge
Civil Parish: St Andrew the Less
Municipal Borough: Cambridge
Address: Smart's Row, St Andrew The Less, Cambridge
County: Cambridgeshire

1881
COURSE, Sarah Head Widow F 59 1822 Dressmaker
Royston, Hertfordshire
Piece: 1665
Folio: 76
Page: 22
Registration District: Cambridge
Civil Parish: Cambridge St Andrew the Less
Municipal Borough:
Address: 8, Smarts Row, Cambridge St Andrew The Less
County: Cambridgeshire


Baptism
Day:23
Month:Nov
Year:1887
Forenames:Annie Janette Laura
Surname:COURSE
Relationship:of
Father forenames:Albert
Fathers occupation:porter
Mother forenames:Annie
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year:
Abode:of Church Street
Place:Cambridge, St Andrew the Less
County:Cambridgeshire,England


Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------
Course Anne Janet L Fulham 1a 204

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 14:53

You have Harry Partridge died in Bournemouth in 1974.

Do you have the death certificate?
How do you know that it is the correct Harry Partridge?
Did he marry, if so, have you that marriage certificate for his age?

At the moment I would say that Harry Partridge, 1878, is actually Henry, 1888.

Have you got the death reference for Mr Herniman from drowning in the River Lee?

Annie Turner's mother is Anne, aged 70 in 1901, to help find her.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 14:14

That's the death I thought was correct, so who was it died in 1955?

Graham

Graham Report 10 Mar 2013 14:10

from death cert 9th dec 1923 orsett district

albert edward course 73 yrs old
informant g d course 78 calcutta rd tilbury
this is the gd course who married charlotte munson

from george dixon army records his signature
is very similar to mine

g

:-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 14:09

Just noticed an anomaly - on the marriage of Anne Turner and Albert Course in 1875 her father's name is given as William Turner. On the marriage of Anne Herniman to John Partridge in 1897 her father is given as James Turner (occupation looks like Stock Marker)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 13:52

Found Anne's mother in 1891 with one of her grandsons:

TURNER, Ann Head Widow F 61 1830 Lodging House Keeper St Andrews, London
COURSE, Albert Grandson M 14 1877 Scholar Lambeth, London
FRISBY, Charles Lodger Widower M 53 1838 Painter Cambridge

Piece: 1285 Folio: 102 Page: 3
Registration District: Cambridge
Civil Parish: Cambridge
Municipal Borough: Cambridge

Address: 15, Norwich Street, Cambridge County: Cambridgeshire

(Not seeing this Albert on any other census)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 13:35

If John and Emily are together in the 1891 then I don't think the two lads on the 1901 census are his sons.

I'm blowed if I can find Annie and those two boys in 1891.

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 13:19

1881 England Census
John Partridge
Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily Partridge
Gender: Male Where born: Eastmar, Hereford, England
Civil parish: St George County/Island: London
Country: England Street Address: 24 Cock Yard
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Coachman
Registration district: Chelsea Sub-registration district: Hanover Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 91 Folio: 72 Page Number: 16
John Partridge 33
Emily Partridge 32
Peter T. Hardwicke 8 adopted son Chelsea
William Tarling 17
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 91; Folio: 72; Page: 16; GSU roll: 1341020.

?
Peter Taylor Hardwicke
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1872
Registration district: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 282

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 13:15

This fits with the birth I found
1871 England Census
John Partridge Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Partridge
Gender: Male Where born: Easton, Herefordshire, England
Civil parish: St George Hanover Square Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Hanover Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 91 Piece: 95
Folio: 60 Page Number: 18
John Partridge 26 domestic coachman
Emily Partridge 22 Yeovil Somerset
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 95; Folio: 60; Page: 18; GSU roll: 824587.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 13:08

I think this is John Partridge and first wife in 1891 (his wife is actually 39)

BEARDSLEY, Edward Servant Single M 28 1863 Gardener Nottinghamshire
POWELL, Edward Servant Single M 17 1874 Gardener Apprentice Pencoed, Glamorganshire
THEOBALD, Thomas Servant Single M 25 1866 Groom Kent
MARSHALL, George Servant Single M 30 1861 Groom Shropshire
FUNNELL, George Servant Single M 29 1862 Groom Northamptonshire
ROGERS, Richard Servant Single M 25 1866 Groom London
PARTRIDGE, John Servant Married M 40 1851 Coachman Herefordshire
PARTRIDGE, Emily Servant Married F 89 1802 London

Piece: 4454 Folio: 4 Page: 1
Registration District: Bridgend
Civil Parish: St Brides Major

Address: Dunraven Stables, Sea Mouth, St Brides Major, Southerndown
County: Glamorganshire

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 12:59

This could be birth of John Partridge - if that Eastnor Herefordshire in 1901 is correct place, but age out:
Births Mar 1846
Partridge John Ledbury 26 195

If Annie married as Herniman, have we found that marriage or her in 1891??

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 12:39

If George and William's father is Albert and not Alfred then this must be the correct death?:

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Albert E Course
Birth Date: abt 1850
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Orsett
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 530

Graham - can you give us the details of the death that you have noted for the father of William and George?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 12:36

Re: the 1901 that Patchem posted above, I do think that's the right one. I've looked at the other John & Anne (and variants) Partridges on the 1901 and the birthplaces just don't fit. The clincher is her mother Anne Turner living with them.

But there is no mention of a Harry born 1878? Harry is very often a nickname for Henry but the lad of that name with the family was born 1888?

EDIT: Is Percy Partridge on the 1901 actually Percy Course recorded under stepfather's name?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 12:22

Albert's birth year is way out on this 1901 but it's definitely the address referred to on his son's service records:

CRIBB, Mary A Head Widow F 55 1846 Newsagent Kingwood, Hampshire
CRIBB, Thomas Son Single M 23 1878 Dock Labourer Sittingbourne, Kent
COURSE, Albert Boarder Single M 58 1843 Dock Labourer Cambridge
ENDLE, George Boarder Single M 60 1841 Dock Labourer Cambridge
BLANCHARD, William Boarder Single M 56 1845 Engineers Labourer Bromley, London

Piece: 1661 Folio: 98 Page: 33
Registration District: Orsett
Civil Parish: Chadwell St Mary

Address: 11, Calcutta Road, Chadwell St Mary, Tilbury County: Essex

So was Anne a bigamist?

Graham

Graham Report 10 Mar 2013 12:04

yes this is him I do know quite a lot about
George Dixon now but cannot find anyone how can
comment on events . His wife is Charlotte Munson
:-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 12:01

If the father is ALBERT Course, then who is ALFRED?
(Would someone explain to me in easy words?! - perhaps I shouldn't have had that extra glass last night!)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 11:58

Albert and Anne's marriage:

Albert Course, "England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "

Name: Albert Course
Birth Date: 1851
Birthplace:
Age: 24
Spouse's Name: Anne Turner
Spouse's Birth Date: 1855
Spouse's Age: 20
Event Date: 26 Aug 1875
Event Place: Saint Paul,Cambridge,Cambridge,England
Father's Name: William Course
Spouse's Father's Name: William Turner

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13802-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1040431
Reference ID:

Citing this Record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVCG-TLF

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 11:55

Graham, when I'm doing my own research I tend to ignore family lore and put it on the back burner. Once I've established hard facts by finding and verifying records I then use the family stories to put the meat on the bones. Very often there are inconsistencies between what has been told and what is correct. :-)