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thomas egan 1911 census

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David Ian

David Ian Report 10 Mar 2013 14:59

hi can any one help i am having great difficulty tracing thomas egan on the 1911 census he was born approx 1871 in bradford yorkshire he was in prison on portland in 1901 just can not find him at all any help would be most appreiciated david hullah

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 15:19

Just for background, that 1901 said he was married and was a general labourer ...

EDIT: Could you tell us who he was married to, and if there were any children?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Mar 2013 15:19

Have you ruled out the one b 1873 with wife Annie living in Cheshire

Rule this one out as with his wife in 1901

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 15:21

The one married to Annie is with her in Cheshire in 1901 and isn't in prison .....

..... unless she said he was at home?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 15:23

Posting that 1901 for reference:

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 1997 Folio: 110 Page: 25
Reg. District: Weymouth
Sub District: Portland
Parish: Portland
Ecclesiastical District: St Peters

Address: Portland, Grove
County: Dorsetshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
EGAN, Thomas Convict Married M 29 1872 General Labourer Bradford, Yorkshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Mar 2013 15:26

Several with same name born in Bradford

Has he any middle names ?

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Mar 2013 15:28

David,
how did you work out he is the one in prison in 1901
Maddie

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 15:31

In case it's the same chap:

Yorkshire Evening Post - 5 December 1899

At the Leeds assizes this afternoon, Thomas Egan (28), labourer, was found guilty on a charge of violently assaulting Robert Goodall, at Bradford, on September 27th.
He was committed to penal servitude for five years.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Mar 2013 15:33

Unless David has found the wife and children in 1901 and Thomas not being at home presumed he is the one in prison

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Mar 2013 15:37

Clutching at straws with this suggestion


Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Craig Thomas Aloysius Bradford,Y. 9b 280
Egan Thomas Bradford Y. 9b 280
Hattersley Sarah Ann Bradford, Y. 9b 280
MURRAY Teresa Bradford, Y. 9b 280



1901 - shown as married
Name: Theresa Egan
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford West
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 4155
Folio: 72
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Theresa Egan 26
Joe Egan 6
John T Egan 2
Catherine Murrey 60



Found the two boys in 1911 but not at home

Barry

Barry Report 10 Mar 2013 15:38

For info

According to an Ancestry tree Thomas married a Theresa Murray in 1897 Bradford and there are 2 two sons on the tree
Joseph born 1894 Bradford and John Thomas born 1899 Bradford
Theresa, according to the tree died in1902

On the 1911 census the 2 sons were working in Whitby area Yorkshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Mar 2013 15:43

Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Egan Theresa 26 Bradford 9b 88

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Mar 2013 15:47

I wish poster would not disappear when there are questions to be answered

David Ian

David Ian Report 10 Mar 2013 17:28

sorry if i have caused any probs had to leave had family problem ???? yes he was married to teresa and had two boys joseph and john t egan and on 1911 census they were living in glaisdale whitby i think teresa had died in 1902 sorry if i didnt give that info before i just cant seam to find thomas on any 1911 census maybe he was still in prison many thanks to all who have tried to help david hullah

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 17:32

David, do you know when/where Thomas died?

Looks like he was in prison on the 1891 census, too.

David Ian

David Ian Report 10 Mar 2013 17:40

yes he was in prison on 1891 census in armley leeds dont no what crime he committed ?? not sure of his death dont seam to pin any exact date on that sorry

Alemap

Alemap Report 10 Mar 2013 18:36

On his criminal record sheet
Convictions:
5 Dec 1899 - 5 years penal servitude for robbery with violence
24 Apr 1895 - 6 months hard labour for aggravated assault
20 Oct 1893 - 6 months hard labour for inflicting bodily harm
Once sent to reformatory ship, seventeen times assaulting police constables, gaming, drunk, &c.

Doesn't help you find him.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 18:48

Pam, do you mind me asking where you found that? (Could be useful for some of my lot!)

Alemap

Alemap Report 10 Mar 2013 18:56

FMP have just released criminal records. If you don't have a sub send me a name and I will have a look. Dates available 1770-1934.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 19:17

Oh, I forgot about that - I do have a sub. but thank you (off to see what I can dig up!)