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Ancestors Thomas Daly and Mary Rickard. Ireland.

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William

William Report 11 Mar 2013 21:45

My Father was Christopher Daly baptised in Clara in 1914. His parents were Thomas Daly born c1874 and Mary Rickard C1875. From Clara Parish church i received information that they married 4July1896 and that Thomas daly's parents were Patrick Daly and Mary? and Mary Rickards parents were Thomas Rickard and Catherine ? I would like to try and find Mary and Catherine's maiden names.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Mar 2013 21:54

Have you tried looking for both families on the 1901 & 1911 Irish census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Mar 2013 21:55

You could also try Family Search site

William

William Report 11 Mar 2013 22:07

Hi. Yes i have tried both but without success. I'm new to this.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Mar 2013 22:12

As far as I am aware Catholic records are kept at the churches of origin and not published online have you established where the families were living ?

Marking the thread as answered will stop anyone else giving any suggestions. Suggest you take off the answered . :-D

William

William Report 11 Mar 2013 22:21

Hi . Thanks for your interest. I believe they were from Erryarmstrong

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Mar 2013 22:29

I know this isn't what you are asking for, but this looks to be the couple in 1901, so here it is anyway:-

Residents of a house 17 in Fair Green (Clara, King's Co.)

Daly Thomas 25 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Westmeath Agricultural Labourer Read - Married -
Daly Mary 26 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Westmeath Jute Weaver Read and write - Married -
Daly Rose Ann 1 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co - Cannot read - Not Married -

Reggie

Reggie Report 11 Mar 2013 22:31

What happened to your other thread, William?

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Mar 2013 22:33

And also in 1911 although there seems to be a problem with Thomas' age?

Residents of a house 11 in Higher Tullamore (Clara, King's Co.)

Daly Thomas 88 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Kings Co General Labourer Cannot read - Married - - - -
Daly Mary 36 Female Wife Roman Catholic Kings County Yarn of Spinner Cannot read - Married - 14 7 5
Daly Rose Ann 11 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Daly Bridget 7 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co Scholar Cannot Read - Single - - - -
Daly Kathleen 4 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co Scholar Cannot read - Single - - - -
Daly Angie 2 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Daly Thomas Male Son Roman Catholic Kings Co - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Callahan Bridgt 36 Female Lodger Roman Catholic Westmeath Yarn Spinner Can read of write - Married - - - -
Callahan May 16 Female Lodger Roman Catholic Kings Jute Spinner Can read and write - Single - - - -
Callahan Jaseph 13 Male Lodger Roman Catholic Kings Co Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Callahan Fanny 8 Female Lodger Roman Catholic Kings Co Scholar Cannot read - Single - - - -
Learey Jane Ann 1 Female Lodger Roman Catholic Kings Co Scholar Cannot read - Single - -

7 children born 5 still living!
Married 14yrs

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Mar 2013 22:36

This looks to be Mary's parents:-

1901

Residents of a house 11 in Frederick St. (Clara, King's Co.)

Rickard Thomas 50 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Westmeath Gardner Read and write - Married -
Rickard Catherine 48 Female Wife Roman Catholic Kings Co - Cannot read - Married -
Rickard Rose 23 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Westmeath Jute Weaver Read and write - Not Married -
Rickard Bridget 21 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Westmeath Jute Weaver Read and write - Not Married -
Rickard Anne 16 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co Jute Weaver Read and write - Not Married -
Rickard William 15 Male Son Roman Catholic Kings Co Labourer in Jute Factory Read and write - Not Married -
Rickard John 12 Male Son Roman Catholic Kings Co Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Rickard Thomas 10 Male Son Roman Catholic Kings Co Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Rickard Lizzie 8 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Rickard Kate 5 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co Scholar Cannot read - Not Married -

.......................................................................................

1911

Residents of a house 12 in Frederick Street (Clara, King's Co.)

Rickard Thomas 73 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic West Meath Farm Labourer Cannot Read or write - Married - 26 5 5
Rickard Catherine 59 Female Wife Roman Catholic Kings Co - - - Married - 26 5 5
Rickard John 22 Male Son Roman Catholic Kings Co Farm Servant Read and write English Single - - - -
Rickard Thomas 20 Male Son Roman Catholic Kings Co Flour Mill Worker Read and write - Single - - - -
Rickard Lizzie 18 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co - Read and write - Single - - - -
Rickard Catherine 14 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co Flour Mill Worker Read and write - Single - -

Married 26yrs
5 Children all living.

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Mar 2013 22:44

Wonder if this is Thomas' mother, now widower?

1901

Residents of a house 7 in Errymaraborough (Clara, King's Co.)

Daly Mary 56 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Kings Co Farmer Read and write - Widower -
Daly Patrick 27 Male Son Roman Catholic Kings Co Farmer Read and write - Single -
Daly John 24 Male Son Roman Catholic Kings Co Railway Porter Read and write - Single -
Daly Sarah 36 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co Farmer Read and write - Single -
Daly Bridget 22 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co School Teacher Read and write - Single -
Bergin Mary 17 Female Niece Roman Catholic Kings Co No Occupation Read and write - Single -
Bergin John 15 Male Nephew Roman Catholic Kings Co No Occupation Read and write - Single -

William

William Report 11 Mar 2013 22:49

Wow thats a lot of info. Is there anywhere they would mention Catherine's parents or her maiden name? In the 1901 does it mention children they had and how many are alive?

William

William Report 11 Mar 2013 23:13

It census says in1901 it lists 9 children at house 11 Fredrick st yet in 1911 it say they only have 5 children all living and this was 12 Fredrick st. Why would this be so.

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Mar 2013 23:20

I wonder????

Thomas Daly, "Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881"

Name: Thomas Daly
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place: Clara, Kings, Ire
Birth Date: 07 Apr 1872
Birthplace: Clara, Kings, Ire

Father's Name: Patrick Daly

Mother's Name: Mary Gunning
:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70253-9
System Origin: Ireland-VR
GS Film number: 255853
Reference ID: 2:2HH89NF
Citing this Record

"Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPYW-D94 : accessed 11 Mar 2013), Thomas Daly, 07 Apr 1872.

William

William Report 11 Mar 2013 23:44

The year of birth is diferent to my 1874 can This be explained. How do you go about confirming this to be able to say", ÿes,this is right.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Mar 2013 08:14

Morning Bill...I wouldn't get hung up on dates at the moment they can vary a whole lot especially when being transcribed...Thomas had aged over night given he was 88 on 1911 census..original shows 38
Given that both the Rickards and Thom day had their place of Birth as the Co W.Meath (1901) then Kings Co. (Co Offaly) 1911 we need to be looking at both for a Patrick and Mary Daly parents of Thomas.

Thomas Daly and Mary Rickards MC/Church Registration may shed some light if we can find out who their sponsers were.



Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Mar 2013 12:55

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1320971

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Mar 2013 13:15

Bill ...I am beginning to wonder if Thomas Rickard snr. may have been married twice...once to a Mary Murray (Co Westmeath) then to a Catherine (Co Offaly)...there is a marriage of a Thomas Rickard to a Mary Murray and some births Co Westmeath .. eg Laurence....(another one in Tullamore Goal 1900 residence given as Clara). Could also account for them listing only 5 children in 1911...but anythings possible at the moment..!!

Laurence Rickard
Ireland, Prison Registers, 1790-1924
other 1900 Tullamore, Offaly (King'S), Ireland
birth: 1874 Castletown
residence: 1900 Clara

His earlier stint 1897 was for Assault...looks like it may have been on Cathe and Thomas Rickard..... both down as "Victims" on their repective entries..I dont have access to the Prison Registers to see if it gives more details about the Rickards and the Daly's

Bill ....You may as well delete the thread on Finding Living Relatives Board.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 12 Mar 2013 13:27

I suggested that Bill would probably reach a wider audience if he posted on this site... I for one rarely look at that board.

William

William Report 13 Mar 2013 05:42

Hi Again. Thanks again for all you are doing. It takes avery nice personto spend the time on someone you don't know and i appreciate it.That Laurence Rickard seems to be around the same vintage as Mary Rickard's 1875.I don't really know what to do from here to confirm any of this.