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Help with family please

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Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 13 Mar 2013 05:39

1911 census
Harry Milward 45 Rhyl Flintshire occ ironworks plater
Norah wife 58 Liverpool
William McGlown 25 married son Middlesbrough occ platers lab.married 5 years 2 children
John William McGlown grandson 4 Middlesbrough
Ernest McGlown 20 single platers app.

1901
Ann McGlown head married 48
John 27 (WHERE IS THIS SON IN 1881)
Lucy 19
Gertrude 17
Ernest 11
Henry Millward 34 occ boiler maker born Mbro but the name above has Rhyl Flintshire . Sorry cant check I was in the library doing this

The son William from 1911 married Leah Naden Fisher c1887 Sunderland and I have found her with her grandfather married sister and the other McGlown child

Gets confusing because places of birth change

1891 census
James McGlown 47 Hampleworth occ mariner
Annie wife 40 Stanton Yorkshire
Mary A 20 Whitby
John 17 Middlesbrough
Elizabeth 9Mbro
Gertrude C 7 Mbro
William 5 Mbro
Ernest 3/12 Mbro


1881 census
James McGloin 26 Chesterfield Derby occ sailor
Ann 32 Stanhope Durham
Mary Ann 5 months Whitby

Struggling to find McGlown births in Middlesbrough . Before 1875 they should come under Stockton

Struggling to find a marriage between James Mc Glown and Ann

Found a marriage for
Henry Millward in 1902 Middlesbrough to Annie McGlown

This isnt a direct relative so dont want to be buying certs
Annie changing places of birth isnt helping

Who on earth is Nora Millward in 1911 age 48 born Liverpool

Very patient helpers needed
Thank you

K

K Report 13 Mar 2013 06:28

Is Norah in 1911 actually Ann in 1901? They are listed as married 12 years in 1911, but maybe just the time that Henr/Harry moved in with the family?

Have to go to work now but will check in later

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 13 Mar 2013 06:54

Hi K
Norah is born in Liverpool according to the census
This is the confusion
Ann /Annie is born Stanton Yorks ot Stanhope Durham on different census

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 13 Mar 2013 07:06

Im doing free census searches and finding the name McGloin

Can someone check these out please

Thank you

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 13 Mar 2013 07:10

Hi Quinsgran

1881 census ?? (the 1881 census you have in your OP is actually the 1871 census) John is with the family on this one although James the father is calling himself John on this census and birth places for john / james and Ann are changed again !!!

1881 England Census 1881 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Mc Glour
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Mc Glour
Mother's name: Ann Mc Glour
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 9 Nicholas St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4847
Folio: 97
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Glour 34 ---Sailor---Whitby, Yorkshire,
Ann Mc Glour 32 ---Whitby, Yorkshire,
Mary Ann Mc Glour 11 ---Whitby, Yorkshire,
John Thomas Mc Glour 8 ---Middlesbough, Yorkshire
James Mc Glour 1 ---Middlesbough, Yorkshire


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4847; Folio: 97; Page: 28; GSU roll: 1342167.


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I will have a look and see if I can find the births

Barbara x

Gins

Gins Report 13 Mar 2013 07:12

For ref. Not sure who it is you are wanting info on?

1911 England Census
Name: Norah Milward
Age in 1911: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool Near, Lancaster, England
Civil parish: Barrow in Furness
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Hood Str, Barrow In Furn
Registration district: Barrow in Furness
Registration District Number: 482
Sub-registration district: Barrow in Furness
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Piece: 25673
Household Members: Name Age
Harry Milward 45
Norah Milward 58
William McGlown 25
Ernest McGlown 20
John William McGlown


HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Mar 2013 07:20

Also Norah and Annie can't be one and same..Norah in 1911 has no children born to the marriage

Jude

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 13 Mar 2013 07:28

Birth for William ??


Births Mar 1886
MCGLOWN William Middlesbro' 9d 547

Choccy

Choccy Report 13 Mar 2013 07:29


?? birth for James


Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
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McElhone James Stockton 10a 83

Gins

Gins Report 13 Mar 2013 07:35

Harry?


1881 England Census
about Henry Millward
Name: Henry Millward
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Millward
Mother's name: Jane Millward
Gender: Male
Where born: Rhyl, Flintshire, Wales

Civil parish: Barrow in Furness
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 15 Greengate St
Occupation: Ship Plater At Works

Registration district: Barrow In Furness
Sub-registration district: Barrow In Furness
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4285
Folio: 71
Page Number: 60
Household Members: Name Age
George Millward 42
Jane Millward 41
Henry Millward 15
Maria A. Millward 13
Retsea A. Millward 12
Letitia Millward 5
Ann Millward 70
Arthur Millward



Births Dec 1865
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Millward Henry St. Asaph 11b 351

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 13 Mar 2013 07:38

This is so confusing
Think I will give them a miss Without buying certs I can never be sure

Just contacted someone who has Ruby McGlown who is with her mother Leah in 1911. Wait to see if she has information

Thanks everyone

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 13 Mar 2013 07:58

Just a thought...the other boarder in 1901

Name: Robert Murray
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Rhyl, Flintshire, Wales
Civil parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 81
Piece: 4576
Folio: 81
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann McGlown 48
John McGlown 27
Lucy McGlown 19
Gertrude McGlown 17
Ernest McGlown 11
James Malone 36
Robert Murray 24
Henry Millward 34

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 13 Mar 2013 19:50

Thank you This family is a pain

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 15 Mar 2013 15:40

Ernest's birth index ?
Births Mar 1891
McLown Ernest Middlesbro' 9d 552