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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2013 18:14

New thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1324793

Mary

Mary Report 15 Mar 2013 16:36

The girl above is very complicated,she was born to mum Daisie Chivers Martin born to Jane Martin/Cameron.Born Woodensborough Kent.

Daisie 1880 -1935 supposedly married Beaumont thomas Jones and Edna May Jones born 26/2/1903 married Reginald Leslie Watcham with the surname of Leclerq (Edna may)died 1981

Daisie also supposedly married Maxime Charles Leclerck born 1880 in france.
They also had Duncan Cameron Leclerk/Q in 1906 died 1921 as Duncan Cameron Barker.
Very complicated tree on Ancestry,but looks as though it is a not the one that Danetree is looking for.

Maryb

Thelma

Thelma Report 15 Mar 2013 15:34

May as well try and find the parents of the Edna May c1903 Finsbury.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name:JANE
Last Name:CAMERON
Birth Year:1849
Age:42
Birth County:KENT
Birth Town:WOODNESBOROUGH
Birth Place:
Relationship To Head of Household:WIFE
Gender:F
Occupation:
Condition:MARRIED
Street:MIDDLE STREET
Parish:NEW SHOREHAM
Town:NEW SHOREHAM
City:
County:Sussex
Country:ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District:ST MARY THE VIRGIN
Enumeration District:45
Municipal Ward:
Parliamentary Borough:LEWES
Registration District:STEYNING
DONALD CAMERON 1831 60 HEAD
DAISIE CAMERON 1880 11 DAUGHTER
DONALD CAMERON 1881 10 SON
DOUGLAS CAMERON 1883 8 SON
MAY CAMERON 1885 6 DAUGHTER

Danetree

Danetree Report 15 Mar 2013 14:30

I'm very sure the data is correct
Born Edna May Leduc 11 Jan 1907. Married Douglas W Crisell 3q 1937 Edmunton Middx. She died in Nov 1991 at Enfield Middx. Had no children.
Douglas b 29/05/1914 Died June 1994 Enfield Middx.
Anyway when I crack this nut. I say "when" - I'll post the result on here

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Mar 2013 13:03

FMP version........these are the only people in the household

1911 census

Person: CAMERON, Jane Address: 331 Kingsland Road

CAMERON, Jane Head Widow F 62 1849 Independent Woodensborough Kent VIEW
LEDUGUE, Edna May Granddaughter F 8 1903 Finsbury Middlesex VIEW

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 15 Mar 2013 11:30

How certain are you about that DOB?

I can't find a birth to go with this, or work out how she would be a granddaughter....but

Name: Edna May Ledecque
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Grandchild
Gender: Female
Birth Place: FINSBURY, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St John-at-Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 331 Kingsland Road N
Registration district: Hackney
Registration District Number: 11
Sub-registration district: South West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 1125
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Cameron 62
Edna May Ledecque 8
Emma Tinker 62
Annie Emily Tinker 39
William Tinker 63

I am convinced it is Leduque in the image

Jude

Dea

Dea Report 15 Mar 2013 10:45

Do please come back to this thread and let us know what you find on the certs.

Dea Xxx

Danetree

Danetree Report 15 Mar 2013 10:33

Thanks to everyone for your efforts, already checked probate - nothing there. As you all say - go the certs way.
I'll send for them and see what transpires
Regards

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Mar 2013 09:36

She does not appear on the 1911 census for Jersey

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Mar 2013 09:21

Perhaps Edna was some sort of servant?

But the certs are the way to go.......to try to get some facts.

Penny

Penny Report 14 Mar 2013 22:28

Cant help but post these- Le Duc on the image

1911

Name: Rose Gurtrude Le Due
[Rose Gurtrude LeDuc]
Age in 1911: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ham
Civil parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 85 Claybrook Road, Fulham, Hammersmith, Palace Road W
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: North West Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Piece: 301
Household Members: Name Age
George Edward Le Due 26
Maude Le Due 23
Isabella Enginia Le Due 3
Rose Gurtrude Le Due 2
Alice Maud Le Due

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 14 Mar 2013 22:21

The surname features often on passenger lists to and from Canada too....so that could be another possiblity.

Do you know who registered her death and know whether or not her birthplace is shown?

If it is an overseas birth though, only country is likely to be indicated rather than actual birthplace.

Gwyn

Kay????

Kay???? Report 14 Mar 2013 22:11


If you have her marriage certificate it could state who her father was and what his living was,,,

Was he in the army?

Jersey doesnt have BDM online but the local history may be of help.

www.jerseyfamilyhistory.org

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Mar 2013 22:06

If she was born in 1907 she would not be recorded on a 1917 electoral roll as she would be nowhere near old enough to vote! That must be the 1937?

Was Edna May already in the household when your relative was born?

Did she and Douglas have children? (If so I guess you've already checked her maiden name on their birth records).

Danetree

Danetree Report 14 Mar 2013 21:57

Marie
Recorded on the 1917 electoral role as Leduc
Born 11/01/1907. Married name Chrisell only married the once in Edmonton/ Enfield 1937
Douglas Crisell. My reason for this search is that my relation grew up with Edna in the house, and only wondered about the connection later in life. That relation is now 93yrs and would love to find an answer.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 Mar 2013 21:04

Hello, was Leduc her maiden name or had she been previously married?

Dea

Dea Report 14 Mar 2013 20:55

Sorry Danetree - can't find her at the moment but have sent out an SOS.

Will come back when I locate her!

Dea x

Danetree

Danetree Report 14 Mar 2013 16:25

Dea
Thanks - Jersey looks a good bet

Dea

Dea Report 14 Mar 2013 15:44

Just had a thought - there is a very helpful person on here who does look ups in Jersey - she may be able to find a Parish record ???

Her board name is Jersey Lily.

Grand-daughter is about to arrive but if no-one else has found her by then, I will see if I can locate her this evening.

Dea x

Danetree

Danetree Report 14 Mar 2013 15:34

Mary
You are correct, the Tuck children grew up with Edna but she was a mystery and still is. The tree on Ancestry is a good chance of being mine. And Jersey is a guess, as the
surname sounds french.