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1871 census help please

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Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 14 Mar 2013 20:58

In the 1881 census
Andrew Lorimer 1847 Scotland occ joiner carpenter
Jane 1840 Cumberland
Albert E Shield step son 1870 Sunderland
Sarah I Lorimer ( that should be a J for Jane) Sunderland
Jessy T Lorimer 1876 Sunderland
Catherine Lorimer 1880 Sunderland

On the 1901 census Jane is born Carlisle and she and daughter Kate( Catherine) are living with Sarah J Naden and her family
I dont need Naden info thanks

I looked for a marriage for Andrew Lorimer and found one in 1869 in Carlisle to Jane Rudden
I really want to see who Albert E Shield is with in 1871

Thank you

Choccy

Choccy Report 14 Mar 2013 21:00


1871

RG number: RG10
Piece: 5002
Folio: 26
Page: 45
Reg. District: Sunderland
Sub District: Bishopwearmouth, North
Parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Sunderland
Address: Potts Street, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland
County: Durham

SHIELD, Thomas Head M 40 1831 Cumberland (born Alston)
SHIELD, Jane Wife F 33 1838 Cumberland
SHIELD, Albert E Son M 1 1870 County Durham

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Mar 2013 21:21

1871

Name: Andrew Lorimer
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Lorimer
Mother's name: Jessie Lorimer
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Carlisle
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 5222
Folio: 106
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
James Lorimer 51
Jessie Lorimer 49
Andrew Lorimer 25
Sarah Lorimer 22
Matthew Lorimer 14
Cat Isabella Lorimer 11
Jessie Lorimer 7

Occupation of joiner and married


Class: RG10; Piece: 5222; Folio: 106; Page: 16; GSU roll: 847440.

Choccy

Choccy Report 14 Mar 2013 21:22



1871 for Andrew Lorimer


1871 England Census

Name: Andrew Lorimer
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Lorimer
Mother's name: Jessie Lorimer
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Carlisle
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 5222
Folio: 106
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
James Lorimer 51
Jessie Lorimer 49
Andrew Lorimer 25
Sarah Lorimer 22
Matthew Lorimer 14
Cat Isabella Lorimer 11
Jessie Lorimer 7


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5222; Folio: 106; Page: 16; GSU roll: 847440.


(Ancestry version)

1871

RG number: RG10
Piece: 5222
Folio: 106
Page: 16
Reg. District: Carlisle
Sub District: St Mary
Parish: St Mary
Enum. District: 17
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Carlisle
Address: Trinity Buildings, St Mary, Carlisle
County: Cumberland

LORIMER, James Head M 51 1820 Scotland
LORIMER, Jessie Wife F 49 1822 Scotland
LORIMER, Andrew Son M 25 1846 Scotland
LORIMER, Sarah Daughter F 22 1849 Scotland
LORIMER, Matthew Son M 14 1857 Cumberland
LORIMER, Cat Isabella Daughter F 11 1860 Cumberland
LORIMER, Jessie Daughter F 7 1864 Cumberland

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 14 Mar 2013 21:34

Thank you all This doesnt make sense. If Andrew is married by 1871 and Albert E Shield is living with Thomas and Jane Shield in 1871 How can Albert be his step son and who is Andrew married to

Choccy

Choccy Report 14 Mar 2013 21:39



Can't find a death for Thomas Shield, or for Sarah Lorimer for that matter.

Perhaps Andrew Lorimer and Jane Shield just started living together?


Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 14 Mar 2013 21:58

What do you think of this
I found a marriage in 1868 in Sunderland Thomas Shield to Jane Tomlinson
Found a death in Sunderland for Thomas Lowrie Shield in June qt 1869 age 28

One of Janes children is called Jessie Tomlinson Lorimer

Choccy

Choccy Report 14 Mar 2013 22:06



but what's he doing on the 1871 census?


:-S


Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 14 Mar 2013 22:12

Silly me hahaha
Why would Andrew Lorimer in 1871 say hes married if he isnt and his wife isnt there

Still odd one of Janes children is Jessie Tomlinson Lorimer
On the 1901 census Jane says she is born in Carlisle

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 14 Mar 2013 22:14

Got to go out now

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 15 Mar 2013 05:49

The marriage I found in Carlisle in 1869
Andrew Lorimer
Jane Rudden
Margaret Johnston
Michael Amos

Can anyone find either of these women in 187

Thomas Shield married Jane Tomlinson in Sunderland in 1868 so Jane is a Tomlinson

K

K Report 15 Mar 2013 08:01

Not seeing either couple in 1871 other than the possible Andrew listed before with his parents. There is this Jane Rudden who might be a candidate for one of the couples.

1861?

Name: Jane Rudden
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Rudden
Mother's name: Anne Rudden
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Caldewgate
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Carlisle
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 3920
Folio: 104
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Rudden 38
Anne Rudden 38
Jane Rudden 10
Joseph Rudden 6
Anne Rudden 3



Choccy

Choccy Report 15 Mar 2013 08:03


think FreeBMD mis-transcribed

1871

RG number: RG10
Piece: 5219
Folio: 8
Page: 14
Reg. District: Carlisle
Sub District: St Cuthbert
Parish: Botchergate
Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Carlisle
Address: John Street, South Waugh's Court, Botchergate, Carlisle
County: Cumberland

RODDEN, Joseph Head M 50 1821 Cumberland
RODDEN, Ann Wife F 44 1827 Ireland
RODDEN, Joseph Son M 16 1855 Ireland
RODDEN, Ann Daughter F 14 1857 Lancashire
>>>>AMER, Jane Daughter F Kent
AMER, Charles Son M 1 1870 Cumberland



1881

RG number: RG11
Piece: 5160
Folio: 57
Page: 10
Reg. District: Carlisle
Sub District: St Cuthbert
Parish: Caldewgate
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: New Broadguards, Caldewgate
County: Cumberland


AMER, Michael Head Married M 40 1841 Bricklayer
Devizes, Wiltshire
AMER, Jane Wife Married F 29 1852
Carlisle, Cumberland
AMER, Sarah A Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Carlisle, Cumberland
AMER, Susannah Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Carlisle, Cumberland
AMER, Mary Daughter Single F 3 1878
Carlisle, Cumberland
AMER, Jane Daughter Single F 0 1881
Carlisle, Cumberland

K

K Report 15 Mar 2013 08:11

According to a tree on Ancestry the Jane above married Michael Amos and this is them in 1881 - Sorry Choccy - Missed your post

1881

Name: Jane Amer
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Michael Amer
Gender: Female
Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Caldewgate
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address: New Broadguards
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5160
Folio: 57
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Amer 40
Jane Amer 29
Sarah A. Amer 7
Susannah Amer 5
Mary Amer 3
Jane Amer