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I have the 1911 census for the Field family and I had the inspiration of doing an advanced search for wife and sister but is the wifes name correctly transcribed please?

1911 Census
FIELD HENRY M 1870 41 Bradford
FIELD IDA ELIZABETH [Sister] F 1869 42 Bradford
FIELD AGENAS [Wife] F 1865 46 Bradford
FIELD ANNIE F 1894 17 Bradford
FIELD MARTIN M 1897 14 Bradford
FIELD HARRY M 1900 11 Bradford

cos I've never come across an Agenas before and I can't see a name anything like in previous census (A guess would be Agnes I suppose). I can't see an entry for Ida Elizabeth either - do I need new glasses ??

Many thanks,
Frances

1901
FIELD, Henry Head Married M 31 1870 Dyers Labourer
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Mary Wife Married F 30 1871
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Annie Daughter F 6 1895
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Martin Son M 4 1897
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Harry Son M 1 1900
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW

Piece: 4148

Folio: 27

Page: 8

Registration District: Bradford

Civil Parish: Bradford

Municipal Borough:

Address: 13, George Court, Bradford

County: Yorkshire (West riding)

marraige ???
ame: FIELD, Henry

Registration district: [?] Bradford

County: Yorkshire

Year of registration: 1894

Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun

Spouse's last name Not available before 1912

Volume no: [?] 9B

Page no: [?] 68
MarriageFinder™: [?] Henry Field married one of the following people Transcript
JENNINGS, Mary VIEW
ZORRILLA, Ellen VIEW

BAIRSTOW, Charles VIEW

1911 from fmp
FIELD, Henry Head Married M 41 1870 Dyers Labourer Bradford Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Agenas Wife Married18 years F 46 1865 None Ulverton Cumberland VIEW
FIELD, Martin Son Single M 14 1897 Worsted Spinners Doffer Bradford Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Annie Daughter Single F 17 1894 Worsted Spinners Machine Minders Bradford Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Harry Son Single M 11 1900 School Bradford Yorkshire VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 26842

Reference: RG14PN26842 RG78PN1542 RD498 SD4 ED32 SN18

Registration District: Bradford

Sub District: Horton

Enumeration District: 32

Parish: Bradford

Address: 43 Grafton St Bradford

County: Yorkshire (West riding)

can't see an Ida Elizabeth on there original

1891 ?
FIELD, Martin Head Married M 60 1831 Iron Dresser
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Ann Wife Married F 52 1839
Carlisle, Cumberland VIEW
FIELD, Jane Daughter Single F 27 1864 Seamstress
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Henry Son Single M 21 1870 Sizer
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, John Son Single M 19 1872 Sizer
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Annie E Daughter F 11 1880 Spinner
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
FIELD, Joseph Son M 8 1883
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW

Piece: 3620

Folio: 29

Page: 11

Registration District: Bradford

Civil Parish: Bradford

Municipal Borough: Bradford

Address: 15, George Court, Bradford

County: Yorkshire (West Riding)

The 1911 census on Ancestry does not have the sister.

Thank you Maddie, I am happy to accept Mary Jennings as his wfe in 1901 giving the children a mother so did he marry again by 1911 to Agenas ???

But the 1911 census says they've been married 18 years, 5 children born, 3 still living.

It says 5 born 3 living who are with them in 1911 2 died,but did they have John Field born 16/7/1901 privately baptised 6/8/1901 by Henry and Mary address 13 George Court (Same as on 1901 census)

There is a tree on Anccestry with John son of Henry and Mary,he married Elizabeth landers.

1911 26,Eastbrook Lane Brd
J H Rodley 1863 Dyer
sarah A Rodley
Joseph Field brother in law single
John Field nephew 1902.

Maryb

Given that the witness on henry Field's marriage 1894 was a S K Rodley I would think this is connected to the same family.

Thank you Mary. I have been looking in Mundia at the Ancestry tree you refer to, I expect, and there are cousins Martin 1831 and Martin 1832 to add to the confusion so I am going to have to spend time whittling at that one to make sure the right one gets the right childen. May be I am a bit cautious but I never take anybody else's tree as gospel without doing my own checks!

OK I have spent the time and now have :-

1861
Field Martin 1833 Bradford Bradford, Bradford East End
Field Ann 1839 ... Bradford, Bradford East End

Marriages Mar 1859
Dickinson Ann Bradford Yk
9b 97

Field Martin Bradford Yk
9b 97


1861
Field Martin 1832 ... Bradford, Bradford West End
Field Emma Jane 1834 Bradford Bradford, Bradford West End

Marriages Dec 1859
Field Martin Bradford Yk
9b 297

Taylor Emma Jane Bradford Yk
9b 297

The March 1859 has not been properly transcribed but the original images are quite clear to me as 9b 97.

Can anybody see any other marriage records that corroborate my findings please, before I email FreeBMD so that they can correct their records.

Apologies but I have to go out now but I will look in later

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935

Name: Martin Field - labourer
Birth Year: abt 1836
Age: 23
Marriage or Bann Date: 26 Feb 1859
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Father's Name: Joseph Field - a Comber
Spouse's Name: Ann Dickinson (22) a weaver
Spouse's Father's Name: John Dickinson - a joiner

Bride and groom both of Bradford and neither married before.

Witnesses: William Holmes and Ephraim Smith

EDIT: I don't think this is the right couple as the ages and occupations don't tally with the correct Martin and Ann on the census.

(Can't find a corresponding record for the later marriage)

Just in case you don't have all the details:

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935

Name: Henry Field, a dyer, of 15 George Street
Birth Year: abt 1870
Age: 24
Marriage or Bann Date: 12 May 1894
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Father's Name: Martin Field - Iron Dresser
Spouse's Name: Mary Jennings (23) a weaver of 44 George Street
Spouse's Father's Name: James Jennings (deceased) Stonemason

Neither married before, both Bradford

Witnesses S K (or H) Rodley and J Jennings

Frances, how did you manage to get this Ida Elizabeth mixed into your family above?

FIELD, Edgar Martin Head Single M 44 1867 Director Printing Works Bradford Yorkshire
FIELD, Ida Elizabeth Sister Single F 42 1869 Bradford Yorkshire
TATE, Martha Servant Single F 60 1851 General Servant Domestic Methley Leeds Yorkshire

RG number: RG14 Piece: 26774
Reference: RG14PN26774 RG78PN1541 RD498 SD3 ED11 SN117
Registration District: Bradford
Sub District: Manningham
Enumeration District: 11
Parish: Bradford

Address: 9 Wilmer Drive Heaton Bradford County: Yorkshire (West riding)

On the original of the 1911 for Henry and Agnes the 18 years married was written next to HENRY's name (not Agnes'), as was the 5 children born, 2 died. That has been crossed out and written in a different hand (probably the enumerator) against Agnes' name.

I believe this is incorrect, Agnes and Mary are obviously two different people as evidenced by their ages and birthplaces.

This is quite possibly the death of his first wife:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915

Name: Mary Field
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1903
Age at Death: 32
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 22

This appears to be Henry's parents in 1861 - I don't think they're the same couple as that 1859 marriage as the ages and occupations are wrong:

FIELD, Martin Head Married M 28 1833 Fitter Of Iron Work Mould Bradford, Yorkshire
FIELD, Ann Wife Married F 22 1839 Domestic Work..., Cumberland
FIELD, Thomas Son M 3 1858 Bradford, Yorkshire
FIELD, Samuel Son M 1 1860 Bradford, Yorkshire

Piece: 3316 Folio: 95 Page: 13
Registration District: Bradford
Civil Parish: Bradford
Municipal Borough: Bradford

Address: 6, George Court, Bradford County: Yorkshire (West riding)

EDIT: I've also found the Martin and Emma Jane who also married 1859 - he's a letter press printer from Worcestershire so doesn't match with the father's details from Henry's marriage.

This is the John's marriage who was born 1901.
John Field married Elizabeth landers 2/5/1925 his address same as 1911 census 26,Eastbrook lane father Harry Field Wool Comber witness Lily Rodley daughter of John h Rodley and Sarah Ann Rodley nee Field.

So it looks more likely that John was the son of Henry and Mary Field.

Maryb.

What I can't get my head around is if on the 1911 Henry Field said they'd had 5 children, 2 had died and the three alive were listed on the census with him, is how John b 1902 fits in?

EDIT: But as Mary says there is this

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910

Name: John Field
Birth Date: 22 Jul 1901 - born 13 George Court
Parish: Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral)
Baptism Date: 21 Jan 1903
Father's Name: Henry Field - street car cleaner
Mother's name: Mary Field - formerly Jennings

Baptised the same day was William, born 1 January 1903 at 1 George Court- there's nothing to indicate on this particular record that it was private. EDIT: I see there was also a baptism for John at St Lukes 6 August 1901.

Hi Marie Celeste and Mary. Thank you for all your posts while I have been out, having a Mother's Day noche a week late!
Perhaps i should go out more often if this the extra reward.
Now I will need another hour to read through it all several times to get the little grey cells to assimilate it all.