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Richard

Richard Report 16 Mar 2013 13:58

My wife and I are researching the above character who was born in the Reighton area of Yorkshire. We have traced him on the 1881 and subsequent censuses. We have found his probable grandparents and great grandparents but are stuck with his parents. There were a William and Hannah Scrivener living in the correct area in 1841 and Hannah may have died in 1843 six months or so after Pashby's birth. However Pashby (his christian name appears to be his grandmother's surname) does not appear on a census until he is a grown man.

Can anyone help please?

Richard and Pam

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Mar 2013 14:09

1881 are you saying this is the right person

Name: Pashby Scrivener
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Scrivener
Gender: Male
Where born: Reighton, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Reighton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Bridlington
Sub-registration district: Hunmanby
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4800
Folio: 38
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Pashby Scrivener 39
Harriet Scrivener 32
William Scrivener 11
Francis Scrivener 9
Sarah Scrivener 5
Ann Scrivener 4



Also on 1871 with wife Harriet

K

K Report 16 Mar 2013 14:11

Hello Richard and Pam

Welcome to the boards. I found this on a tree on Ancestry which appears to relate to the same family

Kay

Christening 1842 25 Dec
Reighton, East Riding, Yorkshire, England
Anglican Parish Record E. Riding, Yorkshire (personally viewed 2002), Baptisms Parish of Reighton, York 1813-1905; 1842 - p. 30 , No. 236, "Dec. 25, 1842: Pashby, son of Jane Scrivener, abode Reighton, spinster; Ceremony by Nathaniel Strickland, vicar.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Mar 2013 14:12

Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
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DIXON Harriet Bridlington 9d 607
SCRIVENER Pashly Bridlington 9d 607

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Mar 2013 14:18

a tree on ancestry has his parents as
John Whiting
1815 3 Nov
Beeford.Bridlington

Christening
1815 3 Nov
Beeford.Bridlington

Jane Scrivener
1820 13 Aug
Reighton.East Riding of Yorkshire

Christening
1820 13 Aug
St Peter.Reighton

her parents as John Scrivener 1780 - 1853
Jane Pashby 1788 - 1851

maddie

K

K Report 16 Mar 2013 14:20

1851?

Name: Parhby Whiting
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Whiting
Mother's name: Jane Whiting
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Reighton, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Reighton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: Bridlington
Sub-registration district: Skipsea
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 2367
Folio: 437
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
John Whiting 35
Jane Whiting 29
Parhby Whiting 8
Ann Whiting 3
William Whiting 8 Mo


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Mar 2013 14:22

Births Dec 1842

Scrivener Pashby Bridlington 23 30
SCRIVENER Lashby Bridlington 23 30
Scrivener Pashly Bridlington 23 30

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Mar 2013 14:22

Marriages Dec 1843 (>99%)
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Scrivener Jane Bridlington 23 45
WHITING John Bridlington 23 45

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Mar 2013 14:24


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About this collection

Name: John Whiting
Birth Date: 1815
Birthplace:
Age: 28
Spouse's Name: Jane Scrivoner
Spouse's Birth Date: 1819
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 24
Event Date: 25 Nov 1843
Event Place: Righton, York, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03472-6
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1470406
Reference ID:
Citing this Record

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Mar 2013 14:25

Marriages Dec 1843

Scrivener Jane Bridlington 23 45
WHITING John Bridlington 23 45

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Mar 2013 14:25


John Scrivener, "England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "
No image available

Name: John Scrivener
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Jane Pashby
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 23 Feb 1805
Event Place: Hunmanby,York,England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M10635-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919200

K

K Report 16 Mar 2013 14:26

1861 I wonder why he reverted to his former name?

Name: Pashby Whiting
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Reighton, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Thwing
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Bridlington
Sub-registration district: Hunmanby
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Piece: 3614
Folio: 100
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances Brigham 42
Robert Brigham 13
Charles Thornton 26
Pashby Whiting 18
Edward Dixon 16
Emma Mattison 18


Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Mar 2013 14:27

is this a relation ??????
Civil registration event: Birth
View the original image

Name: SCRIVENER, George Pashby

Registration district: [?] Bridlington

County: Yorkshire

Year of registration: 1872

Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]9D

Page no:[?]313

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Mar 2013 14:27

??

Name: Pashby Whiting
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1842
Registration district: Bridlington
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 23
Page: 30

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Mar 2013 14:32

Well done GB - so looks like his birth was registered in both surnames - well same page number for both.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 16 Mar 2013 14:35

Perhaps he only found out that he was born out of wedlock at a later date and so decided to use his "birth" name of Scrivener when he married but had been happy to use his father's name before that. It seems John Whiting must have gone to register the birth with Jane or the birth wouldn't be recorded in both the mother and the father's name.

It seems from the baptism record that his mother was still single when she had him baptised.

Kath. x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Mar 2013 14:42

Buy the marriage cert and see if any father is named and if witnesses are related

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 16 Mar 2013 14:43

Looks like Jane Scrivener and John Whiting were agricultural labourers for the same farmer in 1841:-

1841 census transcription details for: Burton Agnes, Burton Agnes

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1213
Book/Folio: 14/9
Page: 12
Reg. District: Bridlington
Sub District: Skipsea
Parish: Burton Agnes
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Burton Agnes, Burton Agnes
County: Yorkshire

Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

KNAPTON, William M 20 1821 Yorkshire
KNAPTON, Elisabeth F 20 1821 Yorkshire
KNAPTON, Charles M 10 1831 Yorkshire
WHITING, John M 25 1816 Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
BLANSHARD, William M 15 1826 Yorkshire
HEBDEN, John M 15 1826 Yorkshire
SLINGSBY, Thomas M 15 1826 Yorkshire
SCRIVENER, Jane F 20 1821 Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Mar 2013 14:52

A bit concerned about this statement "probable grandparents and great grandparents" as without knowing the correct parents how could you have arrived at that

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 16 Mar 2013 15:00

Without getting certificates (which you need to do) then I would say that these are more likely to be his Pashby's grandparents in 1841 (NOT William and Hannah) - although only working on instinct here:-

1841 census transcription details for: West Lane, Reighton, Speeton

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1215
Book/Folio: 7/6
Page: 5
Reg. District: Bridlington
Sub District: Hunmanby
Parish: Reighton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: West Lane, Reighton, Speeton
County: Yorkshire

Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

SCRIVENER, John M 60 1781 Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<
SCRIVENER, Jane F 55 1786 Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<
SCRIVENER, John M 12 1829 Yorkshire

Kath. x