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unless one of them remarried

Charlotte 1847 married Henry James Curness

georges siblings married as follows:
Thomas 1839 married Mary king 1842
William 1836 marriedMary Anne Harling 1838
Not sure about Harriet
Eliza1846 married George Newman 1834

I am wondering how Mrs Hoan fits in stll as an aunty...any suggestions?

cant find the actual marriage cert only the entries inBDM :(

hi Chris im just checking

Mrs. Hogan, the aunt, is very difficult to pin down. On Robert's admission to the home in 1893 she calls herself Mrs. Knott.

I don't know if this means she was a Mrs. Knott, who then married Mr. Hogan, or that she was a Mrs. Knott who lived with a Mr. Hogan, so used his name sometimes.

I can't see a Knott/Hogan marriage.

Either way, it looks as if she was related to George Knott rather than the mother.

I don't suppose you remember whereabouts in West Ham the George Knott/Margaret Trayhorn marriage took place do you? I've looked through all the West Ham marriage records, but couldn't find it. So it looks as though the marriage must have taken place in the West Ham registration district, but not in West Ham intself.

no you havent ,missed them Chris, no one has found them yet.

I was thinking about the theory someone had that Thomas'd father George and his mother were not married. So if Aunt is Mrs Ogan/Hogan, she must be Thomas's mums sister (before or after her marrriage) or his mums brothers wife.. but cant get my head around how that helps narrow the search..

Would rule out George and family on 1891 then!...

(perhaps the 1866 Marriage, and Margaret Death Certs. might be handy, seems a few researching, but nobody has them, or not sure if I've missed details)

Chris :)

JUST FOUND THIS in someone elses tree
George Knott
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1887
Age at Death: 45
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 258 (click to see others on page)

She is searching my family too

Burrett Family Tree
Owner:pauline_campanella

.....Til tomorrow...

Sorry i have to call it a night..up early in the morning...thank you all once again for your help...maybe tomoorrow, all will be revieled :-S

Thats a shame Christina i hoped Mare street would bring up something

i dont appear to have the cert only these details for marriage to Trayhorn/fether
:George Knott
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1866
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 59 (click to see others on page)

Thank you for the above info.

I have checked my records and no, no death record for George :(

I noticed when i was searching for Mrs Ogan/Hogan at 35 North Street that the address on one of the school admissions had 'Mare Street 'written underneath...? Road name change maybe?? or maybe she lived at both??

Afraid not. Mare Street was just the main road that North Street ran off. North Street is on the electoral rolls, it's just that the people at no.35 living from 1894 to 1896 weren't eligible to vote.

Have you had any luck finding the 1865 marriage certificate?

Name: George Mott (Nott)
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1844
Father's Name: William Mott (Glass Blower)
Mother's name: Sarah Mott
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers
(address, Webber Row)

(also, Harriett 1845 Webber Row)

Chris :)

ill check my records to see if ive got georges death records

i seem to remember on one document i saw when looking for Mrs Ogan/Hogan the address was listed as 35 North street with Mare street written underneath if this helps at all...? Road renamed maybe

Not good news for the electoral registers for 35, North Street.

1893 - Jonathan Charles Davies

1894, 1895 and 1896 - No-one eligible to vote listed. House nos. jump 34, 36, 37

1897 - Alfred Eighteen (same as on the 1901 census).

I can't see anything, either, for an obvious death. The only certain date is that he was deceased by the time Thomas got married in 1911.

Some more school dates:

16/11/1888 Mowlem Street School:
Jane Nott - father George of 21, Havelock Square b.26/9/81
Robert Nott - - ditto - b.1/6/83

Feb.1888 Cranbrook Road School:
Wm. Knott - father Geo. of 6, Derby Place b. 5/80

Any Death details for George Knott Cindy?...

Chris :)

This could be Eliza Bullock in 1901

1901 England Census
about Eliza Knott
Name: Eliza Knott
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Shadwell, London, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Central Hackney
Household schedule number: 72
Piece: 218
Folio: 10
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Eliza Knott - widow - age 55 - cook domestic




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