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Alison

Alison Report 17 Mar 2013 03:59

Hi,
Trying to find more information on Eli Jacobs born England and wife Elizabeth born Canada....Found Living in Canada 1871 1881 ......There daughter Fanny moved to england betwen 1881 and 1891..I cant find any travel records for her.

Wondering if someone could please have a look 1891 census Canada or any other details from other census .I do not have full membership of Ancestry so not sure what details are given on these.


The family are in Canada 1871 & 1881
Eli Jacobs born 1833 England
Elizabeth Jacobs born 1840 Canada
William born 1862 Nova scotia
Fanny b 1869 '' ""
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Eli Jacobs
Canada Census, 1891
birth: 1833 England
residence: 1891
St Stephen, Charlotte, New Brunswick, Canada
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I think Eli could have been born in Wiltshire parents William Jacobs and Harriet..he appears on 1841 census and 1851..then seems to vanish from the uk.

There is also Elijah Jacobs that migrated to Canada in 1883. whom I think could be Eli's brother.

Any help on this would be great.
Thanking you
Alison


Gai

Gai Report 17 Mar 2013 04:33

This could be the family in 1891

Name: Eli Jacobs
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 58
Birth Year: abt 1833
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Religion: Church of England
French Canadian: No
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Jacobs
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Province: New Brunswick
District Number: 13
District: Charlotte
Subdistrict: St Stephen
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Eli Jacobs 58
Elizabeth Jacobs 52
William Jacobs 27

Alison

Alison Report 17 Mar 2013 04:38

Hi Gai,

Yes definatley them.....thank you.
Does the transcription on any census give any other details ?...eg migration dates how long they have been married!

Gai

Gai Report 17 Mar 2013 04:41

Hi Alison,
I should be able to send you the 1891 census.

I can't seem to locate them in the 1901 census or Fanny's arrival details.

Gins

Gins Report 17 Mar 2013 09:18

There is this for a possible Eli birth

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Eli Jacob
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 14 Jul 1833
Christening Place: Figheldean, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name: William Jacob
Mother's name: Harriet

1851 England Census
Name: Eli Jacob
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Jacob
Mother's name: Harriet Jacob
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Figheldean, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Figheldean
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Amesbury
Sub-registration district: Orcheston
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Piece: 1845
Folio: 211
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
William Jacob 58
Harriet Jacob 52
Jonathan Jacob 25
Uriah Jacob 22
Eli Jacob 17
Arthur Jacob 16
Albert Jacob 7


1841 England Census
Name: Elisha Jacobs
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
[1833]
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Figheldean
Hundred: Amesbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Amesbury
Sub-registration district: Amesbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1165
Book: 8
Folio: 11
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
William Jacobs 45
Harriet Jacobs 40
Charles Jacobs 15
Frances Jacobs 15
Uriah Jacobs 12
Josiah Jacobs 10
Elisha Jacobs 18
Arthur Jacobs 6
Emanual Jacobs 1


Gai

Gai Report 17 Mar 2013 09:49

Gins,

I sent the 1891 census to Alison by pm and asked how she knew that Fanny returned
to England.

Apparently Fanny married 1894 to a Frank Mould in Wiltshire.




Gins

Gins Report 17 Mar 2013 09:57

Gai

I saw that marriage but I also saw a US census with Fanny Farnsworth b CA and husband Frank, father Eli Jacobs

There are also shipping records with an Elizabeth Jacobs, listed as blind and going to stay with Fanny Farnsworth in the US

Maybe it's just coincidence?

Gins

Gins Report 17 Mar 2013 10:10

1901 Census of Canada
Name: Elizabeth Jacobs
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 60
Birth Day & Month: 16 Jan
Birth Year: 1841
Birthplace: Nb
Relation to Head of House: Head
Racial or Tribal Origin: Irish
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Episcopalian
Province: New Brunswick
District: Charlotte
District Number: 15
Sub-District: St Stephen (Town/Ville)
Sub-District Number: P-3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Jacobs 60 <<<<<<<<<<Blind


Gai

Gai Report 17 Mar 2013 10:22


Gins, that's an interesting development about Fanny.

I have searched all the Incoming into the UK and can't find any record of Fanny
at all.

Hopefully Alison can give us some concrete proof about the marriage she believes to be the Fanny she is looking for.

Gins

Gins Report 17 Mar 2013 10:25

Just posting this for ref, saves me going back and forth


1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Fannie E Farnsworth
[Sannie E Farnsworth]
[Fannie E Jacobs]
Age: 29
Birth Date: Jul 1870
Birthplace: Canada
[Canada English]
Home in 1900: Fitchburg Ward 3, Worcester, Massachusetts
[Worcester]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1889
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Frank E Farnsworth
Marriage Year: 1889
Years Married: 11
Father's Name: Eli Jacobs
Father's Birthplace: Canada English
Mother's Birthplace: Canada, England
Mother: number of living children: 1
Mother: How many children: 1
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank E Farnsworth 32
Fannie E Farnsworth 29
Mabel E Farnsworth 10
Eli Jacobs 66


Gins

Gins Report 17 Mar 2013 10:27

Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988
about Fannie E Jacobs
Name: Fannie E Jacobs
Birth Date: abt 1869
Event Type: Marriage
Event City: Framingham
Marriage Date: 12 Jun 1889
Marriage Age: 20
Father Name: Eli Jacobs
Mother Name: Elizabeth
Spouse Name: Frank E Farnsworth
Spouse Marriage Age: 21
Spouse Father Name: Adrial
Spouse Mother Name: Lucinda

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Mar 2013 10:42

Link to the image of that marriage:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12314-28259-49?cc=1469062&wc=6961475

Frank was a barber and born Maine, Fannie was born New Brunswick

Gai

Gai Report 17 Mar 2013 10:44

Gins,

I have sent Alison a pm telling her about the information you have found.

I believe she is helping a friend with her research so hopefully she comes
back to the thread soon.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Mar 2013 10:50

This must be the 1911 for the Fanny referred to who married Frank Mould:

MOULD, Frank Head Married7 years M 42 1869 Wood Cutter Wiltshire
MOULD, Fany Wife Married F 45 1866 Novatiotia Resident
MOULD, Frances Stephen George Son Single M 16 1895 Wood Cutter Lankhall Batts Somerset
MOULD, Stephen Son M 14 1897 Coal Miner Hewer Lankhall Batts Somerset
MOULD, John Son M 14 1897 Coal Miner Hewer Lankhall Batts Somerset

RG number: RG14 Piece: 14676
Reference: RG14PN14676 RG78PN890 RD316 SD1 ED13 SN25
Registration District: Bath
Sub District: Twerton
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: Englishcombe

Address: 1 Rose Cottages Odd Down Bath County: Somersetshire

It begs the question whether Alison is working back from the Moulds or forwards from the Jacobs.

The birthdate (if accurate) is 3 years older than Fanny Jacobs born to Eli .

Gins

Gins Report 17 Mar 2013 10:51

Gai/MC

Ive tried reading that marriage record but it's such a poor quality image.

I wanted to check who the witnesess's were. Can you have a look and see if you can make anything out please

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Mar 2013 10:55

Gins, sadly it doesn't give any witnesses, just that the ceremony was performed by Allen G Hall, pastor of ME (Methodist?) church at so Framingham (image comes up quite clear on my screen?)

EDIT: I notice the documents on Ancestry and Familysearch are different versions of the same thing, but have exactly the same info. The Familysearch version on the link above is much clearer to read.

Gai

Gai Report 17 Mar 2013 11:04


That's a terrible image, how on earth would you even know if there was
a transcription error or not.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Mar 2013 11:09

Gai - does the Familysearch image not work better for you?

There's no doubt the marriage and 1900 US census that Gins found is for Fannie, the daughter of Eli and Elizabeth so it looks like we have two Fannys.

1901 England

MOULD, Frank Head Married M 31 1870 Maltster Bradford, Wiltshire
MOULD, Fanny Head Married F 33 1868 Halifax Nova Scotia
MOULD, Francis S G Son M 5 1896 Bath, Somersetshire
MOULD, Stephen Son M 4 1897 Bath, Somersetshire
MOULD, Thomas Son M 1 1900 Bath, Somersetshire
LANE, Thomas Boarder Single M 16 1885 Iron Moulder Bristol, Gloucestershire

Piece: 2334 Folio: 56 Page: 14
Registration District: Bath
Civil Parish: Twerton

Address: 20, Stuart Place, Twerton County: Somersetshire

Gai

Gai Report 17 Mar 2013 11:18


MC - I didn't look at Familysearch only Ancestry.

I can see the image a lot clearer on Familysearch.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Mar 2013 12:07

Had a look in the newspaper archives to see if there was anything on the 1894 marriage of Frank Mould and Fanny Jacob that might give some background, sadly not.

However, the Frank Mould of the addresses on the 1901 and 1911 was mentioned many times relating to his appearances at the police courts on drink related charges.