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1911 shows 243 people named Weston resident in the West Derby district of Liverpool...............the children whose names you have picked out could belong to any of those families

Can you say what prompted you to research them, when there was nothing on 1911 census to support the idea that they could be connected?

BTW......to refer back to your original post. Unless the mother registered the death, her name will not be on the child's death cert

If you think that the parents were lying when they filled in their census form, buy the birth certs to ascertain the names of the parents of the children you are querying

As I stated earlier, there are further births for the family on freebmd.......you can easily find them by inputting the surnames in the appropriate search boxes.

The 1911 census is unambiguous about the number of children born and living.

Kathleen and Lily were not born in the same part of W. Derby. Lily's birth is on LancsBMD........Kathleen's isn't

Annie Victorias birth was registered in Toxteth Park district

David, it's quite unlikely that Kathleen and Lily were part of your Weston family if what Frederick & Kathleen said on the 1911 was true about only having the 3 children born and still alive.

The only way you could be absolutely certain is to buy the birth certificates to see who the parents were.

Sorry if I am confusing folks. The Family name I am researching is Weston. I do have a lot of information but also some ifs and maybe's i.e. Lily and Kathleen born 1904. Kathleen Keville was my great grandmother with Frederick my great grandfather. It is that the generation is a bit vague to some of the remaining family still living possibly on bum steers etc. 3 children living at the time is correct but also had more children upto Jean 1922

Thanks for all your help it is nice to have.

Dave, is your question addressed to me about records searched?

If so, I browsed through Liverpool burials on Ancestry for the timespan. No other names mentioned (would have posted if there was - I always try to give all info that's on original images)

Four further possible births on freebmd

1911 census

Person: WESTON, Kathleen Address: 8 Paradise Gardens Wavertree

WESTON, Frederick Head Married M 36 1875 Gardener Domestic Delmonden Hawkhurst Kent VIEW
WESTON, Kathleen Wife Married10 years F 28 1883 Longton Staff VIEW
WESTON, Annie Veronica Daughter F 8 1903 School Liverpool VIEW
WESTON, Winifred Jessie Daughter F 5 1906 School Liverpool VIEW
WESTON, Frederic Son M 2 1909 Liverpool

3 children born.....3 children living

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1901
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
KEVILLE Kathleen WESTON Frederick West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/196/50

Who are you actually connected to?

It would help us to help you if we knew that..........

Does it give any name of mother Keville Kathleen?
What records did you search?

Thanks
Dave

Found this:

Liverpool, England, Catholic Burials, 1813-1988
Name: Lilly Weston
Birth Year: abt 1901 **** wrong!
Age: 3
Death Year: abt 1904
Burial Date: 11 Sep 1904
Parish: Yew Tree Cemetery

On the original image she was 3 months old.

Residence was 8 Blygh Street. Buried in grave 182 (along with others)

Ok thanks, a bit more knowledge of BDM and how they were collated

Dave

I don't see a birth for Kathleen at LanBMD - I think Walton is the only subdistrict of W Derby RD that hasn't been transcribed for this period, so I presume that's where her birth was.

Incidentally, the local index here gives the local page # as the last bit of the ref. The local pages contain 5 entries, and the GRO copy has 10 entries, so it's possible to get entries from non-adjacent local pages on the same GRO page. I think most local registrars just finished their quarterly copies at the end of the quarter, so after a while the page boundaries would be misaligned at the end of a quarter. I think a few might have spoiled the rest of the local page at the quarters end as a sort of place marker, so they would stay aligned.

Thanks yes Lily and Wavertree match but also a number of others including Kathleen

Dave

Not a problem............we live and learn!

Good luck with further research

Lily's birth was in Wavertree.........does that help?

If your interests lie mainly in Lancs..........two very useful sites

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Sorry I am new to this so I am finding my way. Thanks for your replies of which I will take note and check things before I post in future to prevent wasting anybodies time

Dave Wezzie

Deaths Sep 1904 (>99%)
WESTON Kathleen 0 W. Derby 8b 399

Deaths Sep 1904 (>99%)
WESTON Lily 0 W. Derby 8b 561

Their births are not in the same quarter.