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I will write that book I think Erinbrough1916......I have printed out the Scottish census for 1841 of GR but it shows the whole town of Neilston Village on there and states that John Kerr/ Carr was born in Ireland... I think though he was Scottish as his wife Susan/Susannah shows on census as being born in Scotland but on all others is says Ireland. So I think I will have a look on freecen.rootsweb as wel as you have suggested.

Petra

Petra...Put pen to paper for future generations...!!

If you go to freecen.rootsweb and scroll down for Neilston in the towns column they have 1841 /1851 Census ...you will find lots of Kerr's b Ireland down for Neilston Village...you may find some "familiar" names....usually when you find one you find others especially the further back you go....

thank you Eringobragh1916, there is so much to my family story that I could write a book, all these secrets etc are unfolding and it is rather exciting...My dad was adopted you see and he only found out last year at age 68! So I have been researching ever since, he was adopted within the family kind of so that made it easier but the Carr's were his adopted family. He thought he was an only child but we now know he is one of 13 and he has met his brothers and sisters now as have I :-D

Petra

Petra...Glad to see its working out....!!

argyllgran, ok searched all trees and there are 2 on there, one lady I have been trying to get hold of since Feb but to no avail, the other lady I have just messaged, here's hoping, fingers crossed :-D

LOL OK thank you argyllgran I will try this shortly thank you for your help :-)

Petra

Wolfdogowner -
Ancestry is playing up this morning, so I can't look at the tree you asked about.
But if (when it's OK again) you search Public Member Trees for John Carr, born 1811 Scotland, with wife Susannah, the tree will appear at the head of the resulting list. You may then be able to contact the tree owner - click on their name at the top of the tree page, if it's shown. If the name's not shown, then, sorry, I don't know how you would contact them.

Of course, the tree owner may have wrong info, so don't believe it implicitly!

Well Done Bev..... I was reading through this and was just about to suggest that the name could be Kerr.
Kerr and Carr are interchangeable.
This may sound quite odd but......my mum and her brother were born in Ireland in the 1930's
My mum's maiden name was always Kerr, but her brother has always been...Carr, even although they are FULL siblings, their birth records had different spellings.

The fluctuation between Carr and Kerr is apparent on many of my Irish family records right back to the mid 1800's.
I still don't know what my family's orginal name was???

wow BeverleyW thank you so much :-D,

I will look into this more tomorrow as I have been doing lots on my tree all day!
I did look at the Kerr spelling earlier but didn't find what you have, thanks again you have been very kind :-)

Petra x

Yippee I think this is the family in 1841:

Piece: SCT1841/572 Place: Neilston -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Neilston Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 9 Page: 18
Address: Neilston Village

KERR John M 30 Tailor Journeyman Ireland <<<<<<<
KERR Susan F 25 Ireland
KERR Mary F 3 Renfrewshire
KERR Joseph M 11m Renfrewshire

yes I do he was a Tailor

Well in 1861 according to the census, sons John and Joseph were born in Scotland. (It's John Jr. on the census with Susan, not her husband).
Susan is stated to be married but husband John Sr. is not with her and I can't see him at the moment.
Do you know what his occupation was?

Hmm, more and more intriguing!
hank you BeverleyW, I have to say the only Susan I could find any link to was Irish, so possible I suppose.

argyllgran, do you know how I can contact the tree owner that you have said about that suggests their children were born in Durham ?
I think this may be likely now seeing as the information BeverleyW put on here for me from 1861 shows that John and Susan Carr were lodgers and that she was from Ireland!

There's a tree on Ancestry which suggests that Mary, Joseph, and William were born in Durham.
No help with John and Susannah's marriage, though.

If Susan was born in Ireland, they may have got married there.

Thank you Beverley W

Ok thank you for this information, I have been going off the 1851 census which shows the family and states that all on this census were born in scotland, but we do know that sometimes these are filled out wrong. I have not been able to find this family ie john or susannah on any other census either, hmm strange....

Of the John Carrs who married in Scotland between 1830 and 1840, none married a Susannah or any variation of that.
One John Kerr married a Susan, but their children's names are different from those in the 1851 census.

The 1851 family don't show up in the 1841 Scotland census, as far as I can see.
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Also, there was no Joseph Carr or Kerr, nor any William Carr or Kerr, born in Scotland around the years of the 1851 children's births, to parents called John or Susan/Susannah..

(Per Scotlands People)

1861:

Piece: RG9/3732 Place: Lanchester -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Conside & Knitsley Ecclesiastical Parish: Conside & Knitsley
Folio: 24 Page: 41 Schedule: 253
Address: 253 Consett

DOLEMAN William Head M M 32 Boiler Plate Furnaceman Staffordshire - Bilston
DOLEMAN Catherain Wife M F 33 Ireland - -
DOLEMAN John Dau U F 13 Staffordshire - Billston
Page: 24/42 DOLEMAN Agnes Dau - F 9 Scholar Scotland - -
DOLEMAN Catherine Dau - F 7 Scholar Staffordshire - Wolverhampton
- James Son - M 5 Scholar Scotland - -
- Mary Dau - F 3 Scholar Scotland - -
CARR Susan Lodger M F 48 Ireland - - <<<<<<<<<
CARR John Lodger U M 19 Labourer At Iron Works Scotland - - <<<<<<<
LINCH Philip Lodger U M 20 Labourer At Iron Works Ireland - -

Son Joseph

Piece: RG9/3770 Place: N Bishop-Wearmouth -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 13
Civil Parish: Ford Ecclesiastical Parish: South Hylton
Folio: 48 Page: 12 Schedule: 61
Address: -
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CARR Joseph Boardr U M 20 Ship Carpenter Apprentice Scotland - -

Yes this is the family :-)