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Mary Hart born about 1830 Bradford on Avon, Wilts.

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Myrna

Myrna Report 19 Mar 2013 01:02

I have a sampler made by my gt. gt. grandmother Mary Hart date 1839 'in her 9th year'. She married Gideon Bush (born 1828 Bradford on Avon) and had 9 children, in various locations from Bradford on Avon to Mitcham and Plaistow, London. She and her family were weavers/cloth workers. I cannot find a definite birth for her. Perhaps Bearfield, giving her mother as Eliza Byfield in 1830 but I am not sure. Can anyone help me, please? Eventually, Gideon left her in West Ham and went to Lancashire, where he lived with a Jane Tomlinson and died aged 56. I can't get any further until I know her parents for certain. Many thanks, MJ.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Mar 2013 01:12

I presume you do not have the marriage cert


Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%)
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Bull Leah Bradford W 8 507
Bush Gideon Bradford Wilts 8 507
Davis Matilda Bradford W 8 507
Davis William Bradford W. 8 507
HART Mary Bradford Wilts 8 507
Hollings Peter Abraham Bradford W 8 507
Tucker Daniel Bradford W 8 507
White Louisa Bradford W 8 507

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Mar 2013 01:26

According to a tree, she was 22 when she married in 1850

K

K Report 19 Mar 2013 04:30

The marriage GlitterBaby listed would cofirm Mary's father's name. She may not have been christened.

There is one Mary Hart living in Bradford of the right age as below In 1841, but the only way to confirm this is via the marriage cert. Checking Family Search there would appear to be few online records on other children in this family being christened.

1841

HART, George M 40 1801 Wiltshire
HART, Eliza F 40 1801 Wiltshire
HART, George M 20 1821 Wiltshire
HART, Eliza F 15 1826 Wiltshire
HART, Daniel M 15 1826 Wiltshire
HART, Simeon M 15 1826 Wiltshire
HART, Martha F 13 1828 Wiltshire
HART, Mary F 11 1830 Wiltshire
HART, Lazarus M 10 1831 Wiltshire
HART, John M 8 1833 Wiltshire
HART, Joseph M 5 1836 Wiltshire
-, - F 1 (12 months) 1840 Wiltshire

Piece: 1166

Book/Folio: 5/25

Page: 24

Registration District: Bradford Union

Civil Parish: Bradford

Municipal Borough:

Address: Bath Road Bearfield, Bradford, Leigh & Woolley

County: Wiltshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Mar 2013 10:30

If she knew her father, his name will be on her marriage cert.

With that data, you can make an informed search for further records

You will NOT be able to find a birth: the best you can hope for is a baptism

Reggie

Reggie Report 19 Mar 2013 10:32

1851 census

Person: BUSH, Giden Address: Budbury, Bradford

BUSH, Giden Head Married M 21 1830 Handloom Weaver Cloth
Bradford, Wiltshire VIEW
BUSH, Mary Wife Married F 22 1829 Wool Handloom Weaver Cloth
Bradford, Wiltshire VIEW
BUSH, George Son M 0 (1MOS) 1851
Bradford, Wiltshire

mgnv

mgnv Report 19 Mar 2013 10:55

Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HART Mary BUSH Gideon Bradford on Avon Holy Trinity History Centre C4/1/285


1841 England Census Transcription
Street:REGENT PLACE
Parish:BRADFORD
City:BRADFORD
County:Wiltshire
Country:ENGLAND
House Number:
House Name:
Registration District:BRADFORD UNION
Archive Reference:HO107 Piece Number:1166 Book:2 Folio:22 Page:15 -> Folio:23 Page:16

WILLIAM BUSH 1791 50 Weaver J
ELIZEBETH BUSH 1791 50 Quiller
FREDERICK BUSH 1826 15 Weaver
AMELIA BUSH 1826 15 Weaver
ELIZA BUSH 1826 15 Weaver
LEWEYA BUSH 1827 14 Quiller
GIDEON BUSH 1828 13 Quiller

Next h/h but one preceeding is:

SAMUEL HART 1801 40 Weaver
HARRIOTT HART 1826 15 Weaver
JONAH HART 1826 15 Weaver
MARIA HART 1828 13 Quiller
JANE HART 1830 11 Quiller
JAMES HART 1832 9
CHARLES HART 1834 7
JOB HART 1836 5


Yeah, I know it says Maria (the transcription is accurate), but might this be our Mary?
NB Everyone is born in Wilts, and, in 1841, adult ages (15+) were supposed to be rounded down to a mult of 5.

EDIT - No. Maria's still at home in 1851 @ 5 Regent Terrace. ho107/1841/266/14

Potty

Potty Report 19 Mar 2013 12:18

The 1841 family in 1851, living at 19 Bath Road - worth checking this address with the marriage cert:

1851 England Census
about Joseph Hart
Name: Joseph Hart
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Eliza Hart - Widow
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bradford, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bradford On Avon
Sub-registration district: Bradford South Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 8c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Piece: 1841
Folio: 154
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Hart 54
Daniel Hart 25
Sauel Hart 19
John Hart 16
Joseph Hart 13


Myrna

Myrna Report 20 Mar 2013 13:52

Wow! Thanks to all who have given their time to finding out all this information. I shall try to fit it all together and make sense of it. (also to find out what a Quiller was).
I was told the Weavers were very unruly and independent and so I am not surprised that they didn't bother with baptisms too much. Many thanks, once again for all the help. MJ