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1841 census help please ( More help needed please)

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Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 21 Mar 2013 08:07

Joseph Whitfield in 1846 married Isabella Stokoe

In 1850 Joseph Whitfield married Isabella Magee

1851 CENSUS
Joseph Whitfield 43
Isabella 38
Mary 14
William 12
Thomas Stokoe son in law 10
William Magee son in law 5

living Allendale Northumberland

1881 census
Joseph Whitfield 1816 Allendale occ coal pitman
Isabella wife 1823 Allendale
William Whitfield son 1849 Allendale ( Wills is born 1848 his mother Isabella died in 1848) occ cartman
J W Guy grandson 10 Leadgate Durham

Only saw a daughter Mary Whitfield born 1847 Allendale
Can you find a marriage for an unknown Guy or Look for Mary in 1871

I have to go now but will check later

Thank you

Dea

Dea Report 21 Mar 2013 08:43

I can't find a James & Isabella who might fit - sorry, but this 'could' be 'your' Isabella on 1841??

1841 census transcription details for: Hagg, Allendale, Forest, Low
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 837
Book/Folio: 32/21
Page: 8
Reg. District: Hexham Union
Sub District: Allendale
Parish: Allendale
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Hagg, Allendale, Forest, Low
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ARMSTRONG, Thomas M 35 1806 Northumberland
ARMSTRONG, Margret F 45 1796 Northumberland
ARMSTRONG, William M 11 1830 Northumberland
ARMSTRONG, Margret F 9 1832 Northumberland
GRAHAM, Hannah F 13 1828 Northumberland
ARMSTRONG, John M 25 1816 Northumberland
MAGEE, Isabella F 15 1826 Northumberland


Dea x

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Mar 2013 09:11

1861 England Census
about Joseph Whitfield
Name: Joseph Whitfield
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella Whitfield
Gender: Male
Where born: Allendale, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Allendale
Ecclesiastical parish: Nine Banks
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Allendale
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Piece: 3862
Folio: 68
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Whitfield 43
Isabella Whitfield 38
Mary Whitfield 14
William Whitfield 12
James Stokoe 19
William Gee 15


Margee

Margee Report 21 Mar 2013 10:16

Death of first Isabella?

Deaths Dec 1848 (>99%)
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Whitfield Isabella Hexham 25 181

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2013 11:20

On FreeBMD, there are no male Guys who married female Whitfields, anywhere.

Also, no male J W Guys born in Durham around the right time. (See 1881 census above)

Only these:

Births Sep 1868 (>99%)
GUY John George Durham 10a 321
GUY John Thomas Durham 10a 347
Births Dec 1869 (>99%)
Guy John George Durham 10a 274
Births Jun 1870 (>99%)
Guy John Joseph Durham 10a 373
Births Dec 1873 (>99%)
Guy John Durham 10a 429

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2013 11:26

There is, however, a J W Gee:

Births Sep 1870 (>99%)
Gee Joseph William Durham 10a 336

Possibly son of the William Gee living with Mary and family in 1861, as posted by Mel above?

Can't see a Gee/Whitfield marriage. Maybe illegitimate?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2013 11:31

On Ancestry, someone has corrected William Magee to William Gee on the 1851 census (posted by Quinsgran in OP)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2013 11:36

Joseph William Gee, born 1870, may not be the son of a Whitfield at all. William Gee was Joseph Whitfield's stepson, so could have married anyone.

One of these,perhaps?

Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%)
GEE William Durham 10a 366
HALL Mary Ann Durham 10a 366
KAY William Durham 10a 366 WHITTAKER Elizabeth Durham 10a 366

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2013 11:39

Yes, Mary Ann Hall:


1871 England Census about Joseph W Gee
Name: Joseph W Gee
Age: 6 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Gee
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gee
Gender: Male
Where born: Leadgate, Durham, England
Civil parish: Iveston
Ecclesiastical parish: Iveston
Town: Leadgate
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: Lanchester
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 98
Piece: 4959
Folio: 109
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gee 25
Mary Ann Gee 22
Joseph W Gee 6 Months

William and Mary Ann are in all the later censuses including 1911.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2013 12:17

How about this for Mary?

Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
Martin Matthew Hexham 10b 438
Whitfield Mary Hexham 10b 438



1871 England Census about Mary Martin
Name: Mary Martin
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Matthew Martin
Gender: Female
Where born: Allendale, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Allendale
Ecclesiastical parish: Nine Banks
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Allendale
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 45
Piece: 5149
Folio: 17
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Martin 33
Mary Martin 24 (born Allendale)
George Martin 3
Joseph W Martin 2
Henry Martin Under 1 Month
Mary Whitfield 23


For some reason, although the transcript lists Mary Whitfield, 23, daughter, she's not on the image. Mary Martin is, I think, Quinsgran's Mary.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2013 12:18


This collection is provided in
association with:
1881 England Census about Mary Martin
Name: Mary Martin
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Matthew Martin
Gender: Female
Where born: Allendale, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Allendale
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address: Hesley Well
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Farmers Wife

Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Allendale
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5106
Folio: 41
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Martin 42
Mary Martin 34
George Martin 13
Joseph William Martin 12
Thomas Martin 8
Henry Martin 6
Matthew Martin 3
John Colson Martin
Leabel Irving 15

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2013 12:20


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Matthew Martin
Name: Matthew Martin
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1891
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 14



1891 England Census about Mary Martin
Name: Mary Martin
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Allendale, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Benwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Benwell St James
Town: South Benwell
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4203
Folio: 38
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Martin 44
Joseph W Martin 22
Thomas Martin 19
Henry Martin 17
Matthew Martin 14
John Coulson Martin 10
Mary Ann Martin 8
Scott Martin 5

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 21 Mar 2013 19:19

Thank you everyone

Looks like Mary Ann Gee ( Hall) died in 1877 Lanchester district age 29

1881 census
William Gee 1846 Allendale occ coal miner (birth reg Macgee)
Jane Ann Gee wife 1857 Lintz Durham
Mary Isab Gee dau 1873 Consett
George Emmerson Gee 1875 Broomhill Durham
Jane Eliza Gee ( no age) Dipton Durham
James Gee 1879 Broomhill

William Gee married 1878 Lanchester to Jane Ann Forster

Can you follow this family please

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Mar 2013 19:26

Your welcome. I did look at the William Gee and wondered if the Ma had'nt been heard by whoever took the census sown. Then I had to go and do something for my other half.

Mel

Quinsgran

Quinsgran Report 22 Mar 2013 01:27

Jane Ann is the wrong age and born the wrong place

Found on familysearch

Joseph William Gee 1870 Shotley Bridge Durham parents William Gee and Mary Ann
Arthur Gee 1877 Shotley Bridge parents William Gee and Mary Ann

George Emerson Gee 1877 Shotley Bridge parents William Gee and Mary Ann

This looks like Arthur

1881 census
John Bainbridge 1852 Tanfield Durham
Thomasin wife 1856 Shotley Bridge
Arthur Gee visitor 1873 Shotley Bridge

John William Bainbridge married Thomason Hall in 1874 Durham
So Arthur must be nephew of Thomason Hall???

Can you follow this family after 1881 or Arthur Gee

Thank you

Choccy

Choccy Report 22 Mar 2013 06:48

1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 4092
Folio: 62
Page: 64
Reg. District: Lanchester
Sub District: Consett
Parish: Iveston
Enum. District: 17
Ecclesiastical District: St Ives Leadgate
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Durham Road, Iveston, Leadgate
County: Durham


BAINBRIDGE, John W R Head Married M 39 1852 Coal Miner
Co Durham Lanfield
BAINBRIDGE, Thomason Wife Married F 36 1855
Shotleyfield, Northumberland
>>>>GEE, Arthur Nephew M 14 1877
Co Durham Medomsley
HULL, George Father In Law Widower M 75 1816 Road Labourer
Co Durham Wolsingham
HULL, Margaret J Daughter Single F 34 1857
Deaf & Dumb From Childhood Co Durham Sholley Bridge


Choccy

Choccy Report 22 Mar 2013 06:49


1901

RG number: RG13
Piece: 4669
Folio: 32
Page: 56
Reg. District: Lanchester
Sub District: Consett
Parish: Iveston
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: St Ives Leadgate
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Durham Road, Iveston
County: Durham


BAINBRIDGE, J W Head Married M 49 1852 Colliery Overman
Durham
BAINBRIDGE, Thomason Wife Married F 46 1855
Northumberland
>>>>>>BAINBRIDGE, Arthur G Son Single M 24 1877 General Labourer
Durham
HALL, George Father-In-Law Widower M 82 1819
Stanhope, Durham
HALL, Margaret J Sister-In-Law Single F 43 1858
Deaf & Dumb Durham

Choccy

Choccy Report 22 Mar 2013 06:53


1911

RG14PN29891 RG78PN1730 RD550 SD2 ED14 SN65
Reg. District: Lanchester
Sub District: Consett
Parish: Iveston
Enum. District: 14
Address: Durham Road Leadgate
County: Durham

BAINBRIDGE, John Head Married M 59 1852 Coal Miner Stoneman County Durham Tanfield Parish
BAINBRIDGE, Thomsine Wife Married
36 years F 56 1855 County Northumberland
HALL, Margret Jane Sister In Law Single F 54 1857 County Durham Cutters Hall

(no children born during marriage)



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Thomason Bainbridge
Probate Date: 1 Jul 1937
Death Date: 8 May 1936
Death Place: Durham, England
Registry: Durham, England


of 3 Durham Road, Leadgate, Durham, widow
Administration to George Hall, retired Insurance Supt., and Joseph William Gee, retired Insurance Agent

£1106 3s 9d

Choccy

Choccy Report 22 Mar 2013 07:06


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: John W R Bainbridge
Birth Date: abt 1852
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1918
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Lanchester
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 711


Choccy

Choccy Report 22 Mar 2013 07:09




Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>Bainbridge Arthur Gee Lanchester 10a 580
>>>>Hutchinson Jane Lanchester 10a 580
Rippon Mary Lanchester 10a 580
Walton John Lanchester 10a 580



is this them?

1911

RG14PN29890 RG78PN1730 RD550 SD2 ED13 SN138
Reg. District: Lanchester
Sub District: Consett
Parish: Iveston
Enum. District: 13
Address: 329 South Cross Street Leadgate
County: Durham


BAINBRIDGE, Arthur Head Married
8 years M 34 1877 Iron Foundry Worker Allandale Co Durham
BAINBRIDGE, Jane Wife Married F 37 1874 Haydenbridge Norhanberty
BAINBRIDGE, John W Son Single M 6 1905 Cullens Hall Durham


3 children born and 2 have died