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William Wyatt 1837

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Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 22 Mar 2013 11:24

William Wyatt born 1837 Wigtown Scotland married a Charlotte ? born 1845 England; still trying to suss out her maiden name..Have tried several options, even the births of her children Charlotte, Grace, Edith, Arthur, Wallace, Janet don't shed any light. William was living in Wigtown with his mother Janet and sister Elizabeth (my direct line) and on the 1851 he is lodging with a half sister Janet and HIS own sister Elizabeth (cant find his mother Janet Wyatt nee Brown born c1801 Wigtown anywhere) I see him on the 1861 census St Pancras Middlesex aged 22 and unmarried, listed as upholsterer. His first child Charlotte E A Wyatt is born 1863 St Pancras. So he has married sometime 1861-1862 BUT I cant find it, so solve the surname issue...Can anyone help. :-(

Potty

Potty Report 22 Mar 2013 11:31

Nancy, if you look at the 1871 census posted on your Brough thread, you will see Janet:

1871 Scotland Census
about Jenie Wyatt
Name: Jenie Wyatt
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relationship: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Swaaran, wigton
Registration number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 19 India Place
Occupation: Laundress
ED: 96
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1871_157
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Brough 41
Elizabeth Brough 42
Agnes P Brough 16
Jessie Brough 15
Robert Brough 13
Isabella Brough 7
Elizabeth L Brough 5
Jenie Wyatt 52


Is William's wife's name not on any of the children's birth certs?

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 22 Mar 2013 11:58

Mmm this Jenie aged 52 on the 1871 census is the (half) sister of Elizabeth and William...I'm still looking for the mother Janet Wyatt nee Brown..Their father William Wyatt snr died in 1848 Wigtown... :-( and NO!! there are no surname listed for Charlotte, just first name

Gins

Gins Report 22 Mar 2013 12:05

Is this your William


1841 Scotland Census
about William Wyatt
Name: William Wyatt
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigtownshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Stranraer
County: Wigtownshire
Address: Sun Street
Parish Number: 899
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Wyatt 40
Jannet Wyatt 20
Elizabeth Wyatt 10
William Wyatt 4


Potty

Potty Report 22 Mar 2013 12:25

Nancy, are you saying that there is no MMN on any of the children's birth certs? Have you found the eldest, Charlotte, on any census with the family. I cannot find a birth for her.

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 22 Mar 2013 12:30

No!! Its such a pain!! just William and Charlotte..Thought if I could find a marriage I would get somewhere
:-0

Potty

Potty Report 22 Mar 2013 12:49

Found them in 1871:

1871 England Census
about Frances Wyatt
Name: Frances Wyatt
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Wyatt
Mother's name: Charlette Wyatt
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Anne Soho
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 397
Piece: 145
Folio: 29
Page Number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
William Wyatt 34
Charlette Wyatt 25
Charlotte Wyatt 8
Frances Wyatt 4
William Lyne 24
Eliza Callerd 18


This is a little odd - brother Arthur is listed with Wallace, but at a different address:

Arthur is at % Regents Bds; Wallace is 9 Peace St; Name of parent or guardian for both is William:

London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911
about Wallace Wyatt
Name: Wallace Wyatt
Age: 7
Birth Date: 4 Jun 1872
School: Manchester Street School
Borough: Camden
Admission Date: 11 Nov 1879
Parent: William
Notes: Manchester Street School (0530) opened 1881, renamed Argyle School from 1937
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV02/MAN/AD/001

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 22 Mar 2013 13:17

Mmm I did see that about the school, and wondered why they were at different addresses??? :-S

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 22 Mar 2013 13:23

Yes! Gins, that my William with my gr great grandmother Elizabeth aged 10 and my g g great grandmother Jane aged 40...No sign of her after this

Potty

Potty Report 22 Mar 2013 13:54

Looking at the school records for Wyatt at that school, there seem to have been two William Wyatts with children there - there are others with the Peace Street address. Have tried looking for the address in 1881 but nothing coming up. The only Wallace in the 1881 is living at Regents Bdgs!

Gins

Gins Report 22 Mar 2013 16:06

Just to make it easy ;-)

Grace had a middle name


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Grace Elizabeth Wyatt
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Age: 19
Spouse Name: Alfred Snell
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Jun 1898
Parish: Kentish Town St John the Baptist
Borough: Camden
Father Name: William Wyatt <<<Upholsterer
Spouse Father Name: James Snell
Register Type: Parish Register

Wit John & Agnes Eliazabeth Clark


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Grace Elizabeth Snell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909
Age at Death: 27
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 169

Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 22 Mar 2013 16:57

Oky Gins, thanks for the middle name for Grace, will try and see if I can get anywhere with this one, someone must have the mother Charlottes surname.. :-D :-

Gins

Gins Report 22 Mar 2013 17:04

Which birth certificates have you bought for the children?

Could you give us the details with the exact date of birth, address and fathers occupation please

Gins

Gins Report 22 Mar 2013 17:14

Jeanie was born 1874 but not baptised until 1882. I wonder if Charlotte and William married later, hence the baptism being later?


Marriages Dec 1878
---------------------------------------

DENHAM Charlotte Pancras 1b 110 <<<<<<<<<<
HICKEY Ellen Pancras 1b 110
PEFFER Edwin Pancras 1b 110
WYATT William Pancras 1b 110 <<<<<<<<



Births Dec 1848
---------------------------------------------------
DENHAM Charlotte Marylebone 1 182


Forget that hypothesise

Name: William Wyatt
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Age: 34
Spouse Name: Ellen Hickey
Spouse Age: 31
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 29 Oct 1878
Parish: St Pancras Parish Chapel
Borough: Camden
Father Name: William Wyatt
Spouse Father Name: Daniel Hickey
Register Type: Parish Register



Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 22 Mar 2013 18:53

William Wyatt born 1837 has been listed as "canvas agent" and upholtserer on most of the census records..He is still working as an upholsterer aged 61 on the 1901 census with daughter in law Lucy Wyatt aged 23 and grandson Wallace 6months. :-)

Gins

Gins Report 22 Mar 2013 19:18

Treemadnancy

Ok, but can you give us the details on the birth certificates for their children please, it might help

Gins

Gins Report 23 Mar 2013 07:21

Just had a thought...............

Have you got the actual certificates for the childrens births, or are you just looking at the registration details online?

If so, the registrations and or baptisims, will not give you the mothers maiden name.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Mar 2013 11:18

??

Name: Edith Ellen Wyatt
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 21 May 1877 b. 29 April 1877
Father's Name: William Wyatt (Upholsterer)
Mother's name: Charlotte Wyatt
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address: 19 Leigh Street



Not seeing a matching birth on FreeBMD

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Mar 2013 11:25

Name: Jeannie Wyatt
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: Oct 1882 b. 6 March 1874
Father's Name: William Wyatt (Upholsterer)
Mother's name: Charlotte Wyatt
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address: 9 Pearce Cottages Tonbridge Street

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Mar 2013 11:33

Name: Jessie Wyatt
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 May 1882 b. 14 April 1882
Father's Name: William Wyatt (Upholsterer)
Mother's name: Charlotte Wyatt
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address: 1 Lavinia Grove


???

Births Sep 1882 Wyatt Jessie Juliet Pancras 1b 10