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Christopher

Christopher Report 24 Mar 2013 22:56

hi could someone please do a look up in the 1841 and 1851 census.i am looking for john harman born 1795 in margate.hopefully he would be married to sarah.they would have children eliza 1826,charlotte 1828,catherine 1830,william 1834,margaret 1835,fanny 1836 and henry 1840
if someone could find a marriage that would help as well.it woud not be john harman and sarah cock.they are the aboves parents.
,thanks for your help.chris

Vera

Vera Report 24 Mar 2013 23:06

1841
Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
HARMAN, John M 45 1796 Kent VIEW Green grocer
HARMAN, Sarah F 59 1782 Kent VIEW
HARMAN, John M 15 1826 Kent VIEW
HARMAN, Catherine F 10 1831 Kent VIEW
HARMAN, Charlotte F 16 1825 Kent VIEW
HARMAN, Margaret F 7 1834 Kent VIEW
HARMAN, Fanny F 4 1837 Kent VIEW
HARMAN, Henry M 1 1840 Kent VIEW
Piece: 468
Book/Folio: 6/13
Page: 19
Registration District: Isle of Thanet
Civil Parish: St John Baptist Margate
Municipal Borough:
Address: Pantile Row, St John Baptist Margate
County: Kent



Regards Vera

Christopher

Christopher Report 24 Mar 2013 23:10

thanks for that.its very kind of you.i just noticed for 1851 he was born in st peterin thanet. :-)

Vera

Vera Report 24 Mar 2013 23:15

Found on the IGI
John Harman Born 17th May 1795 St Peters Thanet father John.

Regards Vera

Christopher

Christopher Report 24 Mar 2013 23:15

in fact if i can find he is born in st peter i will know he is definitely mine.i suddenly found i was following the wrong harmans through copying the first tree i got access to.i now find most of my harmans are exclusive to me.and it is the same case with this family.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Mar 2013 00:59

Name: John Harman
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 17 May 1795
Christening Place: St. Peter, Thanet, Kent, England
Father's Name: John Harman
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I06875-4
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1737005
Reference ID: it 2

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Mar 2013 01:03

????????????????

John Harman, "England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "

Name: John Harman
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann Hains
Event Date: 25 Dec 1820
Event Place: Folkestone, Kent, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01203-6
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1786455
Reference ID: 89-268

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Mar 2013 01:08

John senior's sister?

Name: Mary Harman
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 17 Oct 1790
Christening Place: St. Peter, Thanet, Kent, England
Father's Name: John Harman
Mother's Name: Sarah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I06875-4
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1737005
Reference ID: it 2




same reference number as John's

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Mar 2013 01:11

another brother

Name: William Harman
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 07 Sep 1788
Christening Place: St. Peter, Thanet, Kent, England
Father's Name: John Harman
Mother's Name: Sarah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I06875-4
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1737005
Reference ID: it 2

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Mar 2013 01:12

I have Harman's too - my paternal line but all Welsh

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 25 Mar 2013 07:28

Possible marriage

1818 13 July HARMAN John Sarah Southon Frittenden Cranbrook

What is Sarah's age on later censuses? If 59 years old in 1841 it would be rather difficult to have a 1-year old child.
Either an error in transcription or there are some grandchildren there?

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Mar 2013 11:53

1841 does not record relationships

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 Mar 2013 12:00

This should give you Sarah's maiden name

Births Dec 1839 (>99%)
Harman Henry I of Thanet 5 421

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 25 Mar 2013 12:19

I am aware of that, Reggie, but in his original post, Christopher names young Henry as a son, which is obviously not correct.
Fanny aged 4 would be pretty unlikely too.

Choccy

Choccy Report 26 Mar 2013 18:05

Having looked at the original 1841 census, I think it is possible that the age given for Sarah Harman is 39 and not 59 as transcribed.

I base this on the probable death and burial of John Harman in 1850 followed by the marriage of Sarah Ann Harman (widow) on 12 May 1850 to Pierce Brett at St Lawrence, Ramsgate. Sarah Ann Harman's father was named as Abraham Haynes a Bricklayer.

One of the witnesses was Charlotte Mulder the daughter of John and Sarah Ann Harman under her married name.

On the following census returns Sarah Ann Brett was born in Folkestone but the date varies from 1804 to 1791!

Christopher

Christopher Report 26 Mar 2013 19:30

thank you all for your help.much appreciated :-)

Christopher

Christopher Report 26 Mar 2013 19:33

sorry i forgot.are the children in the 1851 census please.thanks

Vera

Vera Report 27 Mar 2013 11:08

Re Choccys find........ Sarahs remarriage.....


1851

BRETT, Pierce Head Married M 58 1793 Mariner
Chislet, Kent VIEW
BRETT, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 48 1803
Folkstone, Kent VIEW
HARMON, Frances Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar
Margate, Kent VIEW
HARMON, Robert Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Margate, Kent VIEW
Piece: 1629
Folio: 259
Page: 10
Registration District: Isle of Thanet
Civil Parish: St Johns Baptist
Municipal Borough:
Address: 1, Grant Cottages, St Johns Baptist, Margate
County: Kent



Regards Vera

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 31 Mar 2013 22:40

:-) :-) :-) :-)

Christopher

Christopher Report 31 Mar 2013 22:58

hi could someone please look in the records for jane harman born in margate in 1836.she is a daughter of william and mary.i think i have her with the wrong wiliam and mary and would like to put it right.many thanks chris