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Harry James Smith & Catherine Irene O'Brien

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Kevin

Kevin Report 25 Mar 2013 16:04

I am trying to find out more on "Harry James Smith" who was born 1900 at Flemington Victoria Australia. He married Catherine Irene O'Brien in 1922 in Victoria. Catherine was born 1905 in Colac Vic. (She is the sister to my previous thread ie Melbourne Sydney Smith marr. Alice Margaret O'Brien)
Now I do have the registration details but to date have not purchased any certificates.
What I cannot locate is the death years and locations, and the burial details and locations? And if they had any more children?
Now I have one child for Harry and Catherine - a son Keith James Smith botn 1925 and died 1932 in Preston. My first assumption is they are all buried at Preston Cemetery which I am unable to find data on line. So possibly a trip in the near future is on the cards.
However if anyone is able to help and supply any data on the above that would be most helpful
Cheers
Kev

Gins

Gins Report 25 Mar 2013 16:22

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Irene Catherine & Henry James Smith (Inkmaker)
Name: Irene Catherine Smith
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Victoria
District: Batman
Subdistrict: Preston

Maybe she went by her middle name


Same couple but I cant see Irene on any later ER's


Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
about Irene Catherine Smith
Name: Irene Catherine Smith
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1942
State: Victoria
District: Yarra
Subdistrict: Richmond

Gins

Gins Report 25 Mar 2013 16:27

Do you have his parents names?


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Henry James Smith
Death Place: Bairnsdale, Victoria
Age: 79
Father's Name: James Henry
Mother's name: Ann Elizabeth
Registration Year: 1980
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 16850
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901

Or this but I dont have a clue where this is in relation to Victoria?


Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007
Name: Henry James Smith
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: abt 1900
Death Date: 21 Apr 1973
Cemetery: Woronora Cemetery
Cemetery Location: Sutherland, New South Wales, Australia
Burial Location: Sutherland

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 25 Mar 2013 16:29

I think that you may find that their names were recorded slightly differently in the Australian Electoral Roll.

In 1931 there was an Irene Catherine Smith living with a Henry James Smith in Showers St, Preston, Balaclava, Victoria:

Name: Irene Catherine Smith
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Victoria
District: Batman
Subdistrict: Preston

Gins

Gins Report 25 Mar 2013 16:34

Australia Cemetery Index, 1808-2007
Name: Irene Catherine Smith
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: abt 1906
Death Date: 14 May 1979
Cemetery: Woronora Cemetery
Cemetery Location: Sutherland, New South Wales, Australia
Burial Location: Sutherland


Jonesey, I cant remember seeing names recorded differently on Oz ER's? I may of course be wrong

Sorry Jonesey, I now see your point!

Doh......been a long day

Kevin

Kevin Report 25 Mar 2013 16:39

Hi Gin
Harry's parents were Charles Octavius Smith and Annie Henderson Waller
I do believe they were definitely in Preston district / suburb
Interesting the twists in the recording of the names.

Hi Jonesey
Christian names are always a pain - people switch them and sometimes switch them back again.
I do have some details on the O'Brien family and thats how they are recorded for the births.
Both Alice and Catherine O'Brien - sisters who married the Smith brothers - well the O'Brien's - parents - John O'Brien born Colac, and mother Mary Ellen Scullin born 1871 Ballarat and died 1939 Fitzroy - they married in 1891 Vic.
6 children that I know of.

Thank you both so far.
Kev

Gins

Gins Report 25 Mar 2013 16:41

Hi Kev

Here are the couple on a later ER

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Irene Catherine & Henry James Smith
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1963
State: New South Wales
District: Parkes
Subdistrict: Earlwood

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 26 Mar 2013 09:01

The NSW deaths are correct:
52540/1973 SMITH HENRY JAMES / CHARLES OCTAVIUS / ANN / KOGARAH
10505/1979 SMITH IRENE CATHERINE / JOHN / MARY

So they are at Woronora Cemetery: www.woronoracemetery.org.au/name-search.html


Surname: SMITH
Type: Burial
First Name: HENRY
Other Names: JAMES
Date of Death: 21/04/1973
Location Roman Catholic Plaque Lawn
Section LAWN 2
Position 1206A

Gins

Gins Report 26 Mar 2013 16:34

Nice one Cherilyn

Thank you for confirming :-)

Kevin

Kevin Report 26 Mar 2013 16:59

Thanks Gin and Cherilyn

Have a great Easter

Kev

۞ Cherilyn ۞

۞ Cherilyn ۞ Report 27 Mar 2013 00:29

:-) No worries, a happy Easter to you guys too!