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1911 Census for Liverpool West Derby please

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Frances

Frances Report 26 Mar 2013 10:19

The gods are not smiling on me today ...

I have found my target George F Lawton and his parents but I am unable to determine whether he had any siblings, because he is before 1912...

Marriages Sep 1890
Lawton Francis W. Derby
8b 1029

Griffiths Sarah Jane W. Derby
8b 1029


1911 Census
LAWTON FRANCIS M 1869 42 West Derby Lancashire
LAWTON SARAH JANE F 1869 42 West Derby Lancashire
LAWTON GEORGE F M 1891 20 West Derby Lancashire

Births Jun 1891
Lawton George Frederick W. Derby
8b 532


1901 Census
Lawton George J 1891 Lancashire, West Derby
Lawton Francis 1869 Lanc Liverpool Lancashire, West Derby
Lawton Sarah J 1869 Lanc Liverpool Lancashire, West Derby

Can anybody see if there was anybody else at home in 1911 or 1901 please?

Many thanks,
Frances

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2013 10:27

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: LAWTON, Francis
Address: 41 Woodside ST

LAWTON, Francis Head Married M 42 1869 Coach Body Maker Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Sarah Jane Wife Married20 years F 42 1869 Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, George Frances Son Single M 19 1892 Railway Porter Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Elizabeth Daughter F 17 1894 Domestic Servant Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Annie Daughter F 15 1896 Fruit Business Assistant Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Henry Son M 13 1898 School Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Thomas Son M 11 1900 School Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Ellen Daughter F 9 1902 School Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Alice Daughter F 7 1904 Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Emma Daughter F 4 1907 Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Frances Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Lancs Liverpool VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 22591
Reference: RG14PN22591 RG78PN1326 RD455 SD9 ED39 SN180
Registration District: West Derby
Sub District: West Derby Western
Enumeration District: 39
Parish: West Derby
Address: 41 Woodside ST
County: Lancashire
(12 children born, 9 living, 3 had died)

Possibly another Daughter...


Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Lawton Catherine M Griffiths W.Derby 8b 1087

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Mar 2013 10:29

Is this not him ?


1911
Name: George F Lawton
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 32 Bradfield St
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Coach Body Maker
Registration district: West Derby

James Lawton 64
Annie Lawton 50
Sarah E Lawton 26
Fannie Lawton 24
James Lawton 23
Catherine S Lawton 21
George F Lawton 20
Alice A Lawton 14

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Mar 2013 10:31

Is he Geroge Francis or George Frederick...?

Frances

Frances Report 26 Mar 2013 10:33

Thank you PricklyHolly and Mike. Sorry Mike but yours doesn't have the right parents!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2013 10:34


1901 England Census
about George F Lawton
Name: George F Lawton
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Francis Lawton
Mother's name: Sarah J Lawton
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Dunstan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Piece: 3488
Folio: 125
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Lawton 32 (Body Coach Maker)
Sarah J Lawton 32
George F Lawton 9
Hannah E Lawton 7
Annie E Lawton 5
Robert H Lawton 3
Thomas Lawton 1
Samuel Higgins 39 (Lodger)

Edit: Residence 4 Railway Cottages


Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Mar 2013 10:35

You posted a birth for George Frederick

Births Jun 1891
Lawton George Frederick W. Derby 8b 532


Do you have the correct birth certificate?

How do you if know this is your man ?

This one is Geoge Francis


1901

Name: George F Lawton
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Francis Lawton
Mother's name: Sarah J Lawton
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Dunstan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England :

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western

Francis Lawton 32
Sarah J Lawton 32
George F Lawton 9
Hannah E Lawton 7
Annie E Lawton 5
Robert H Lawton 3
Thomas Lawton 1
Samuel Higgins 39




Frances

Frances Report 26 Mar 2013 10:43

Thank you PricklyHolly and Mike,
I am working with information given to me by the decendant (grandson) and I think George Frederick was still around when he was born

Frances

Frances Report 26 Mar 2013 10:51

Mike, I have been thinking about what you have said and I take your point. Not all the info I have been given on other branches of the family has been sound so I will try to get certificate confirmation.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2013 10:58


Are the parents of your George definately Francis and Sarah?

How did you come across him in the first place?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about George Francis Lawton
Name: George Francis Lawton
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1892
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 530


Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
about George Francis Lawton
Name: George Francis Lawton
Birth Date: 31 Dec 1891
Baptism Date: 21 Feb 1892
Parish: Edge Hill St Dunstan
Father's Name: Francis Lawton (Coach Builder)
Mother's name: Sarah Jane Lawton
Abode: 23 Rokesmith Street......(Same Address as the 1891 census)





PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2013 11:10

This is George Frederick Lawson and family.........

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: LAWTON, George F
Address: 32 Bradfield ST

LAWTON, James Head Married M 64 1847 Railway Pensionerm L And N W Lancs Ashton U Lyne VIEW
LAWTON, Annie Wife Married29 years F 50 1861 Lancs Halewood VIEW
LAWTON, Sarah E Daughter Single F 26 1885 Asst: Teacherr Elementary Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Fannie Daughter Single F 24 1887 Cashier Furnishing Coy Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, James Son Single M 23 1888 Sheet Metal Worker Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Catherine G Daughter Single F 23 1888 Assist Teacher Element Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, George F Son Single M 20 1891 Coach Body Maker Lancs Liverpool VIEW
LAWTON, Alice A Daughter F 14 1897 At School Lancs Liverpool VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 22566
Reference: RG14PN22566 RG78PN1326 RD455 SD9 ED14 SN204
Registration District: West Derby
Sub District: West Derby Western
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: West Derby
Address: 32 Bradfield ST
County: Lancashire
(8 children born, 6 living, 2 had died)



1901 England Census
about George F Lawton
Name: George F Lawton
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Lawton
Mother's name: Annie Lawton
Gender: Male

Civil parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: Edge Hill St Cyprian
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Piece: 3490
Folio: 81
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James Lawton 54 (Railway Passenger Guard)
Annie Lawton 40
Sarah E Lawton 16
Fanny Lawton 14
James Lawton 13
Catherine Lawton 11
George F Lawton 10
Alice A Lawton 4



Do you know who your George married?.......if so....this might help.

George "Frederick" on the image...

Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about George Mederick Lawton
Name: George Mederick Lawton (Coach Builder) Bachelor.... 32 Bradfield Street.
Birth Year: abt 1891
Age: 27
Marriage Date: 16 Jul 1918
Parish: Liverpool St Philip
Spouse's Name: Prudence Walker (Spinster) 42 Malvern Road.
Father's Name: James Lawton (Railway Guard)
Spouse Father's Name: Richard Walker (Litho Graphic Printer)




PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2013 11:48

George Francis marriage.....

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about George F. Lawton
Name: George F. Lawton
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1892
Age: 21
Father's Name: Frank Lawton
Spouse's Name: Mary E. Wilcox
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Father's Name: William Wilcox
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1913
Marriage Place: Wavertree, Lancashire, England


Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Mary Elizabeth Wilcox
Name: Mary Elizabeth Wilcox
Birth Date: 8 Sep
Baptism Date: 27 Sep 1893
Parish: Stoneycroft All Saints
Father's Name: William Wilcox (Fireman)
Mother's name: Alice Wilcox



Frances

Frances Report 26 Mar 2013 15:38

Thank you for all the extra PricklyHolly. I have heard back from the descendant and it is George Francis so that is fine. What threw me was that they had his birth as 1891, which is correct - 31 Dec lol - but of course he was not registered until 1892

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2013 16:08

Ah yes Frances.

Lots of people get confused when that happens!!

Happy researching.......Prickles.

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Mar 2013 17:00


Info from a tree, but check the details as they are not all sourced.




George Francis Lawton

Birth 31 Dec 1891 in Edge Hill, Lancashire, England
Death Jun 1961 in Liverpool North, Lancashire, England

Name: George Francis Lawton
Birth Date: 31 Dec 1891
Baptism Date: 21 Feb 1892
Parish: Edge Hill St Dunstan
Father's Name: Francis Lawton
Mother's name: Sarah Jane Lawton


Parents
Francis George Lawton
B:07 Apr 1867 in West Derby, Lancashire, England

Sarah Jane Griffiths
Birth18 Jul 1868 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England

----------------------------------------------------

Name: Sarah Jane Griffiths
spouse : Francis Lawton
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1890
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 1029

-----------------------------------

1911

Name: Francis Lawton
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 41 Woodside St Edge Hill Liverpool
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coach Body Maker
Registration district: West Derby


Francis Lawton 42
Sarah Jane Lawton 42 - Married 20 yrs.... 12 children born, 3 died
George Francis Lawton 19
Elizabeth Lawton 17
Annie Lawton 15
Henry Lawton 13
Thomas Lawton 11
Ellen Lawton 9
Alice Lawton 7
Emma Lawton 4
Francis Lawton 7/12


--------------------------------------

Name: George F. Lawton
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1892
Age: 21
Father's Name: Frank Lawton
Spouse's Name: Mary E. Wilcox
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Father's Name: William Wilcox
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1913
Marriage Place: Wavertree, Lancashire, England




Frances

Frances Report 26 Mar 2013 17:51

Thank you Mike * - Is this a star because you are one lol

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2013 19:13

1891 England Census
about Francis Lawton
Name: Francis Lawton
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah J Lawton
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal)
ED, institution, or vessel: 42a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2996
Folio: 84
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Lawton 22 (Coach Body Maker)
Sarah J Lawton 22


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2013 19:25

I think the Elizabeth born 1894 in the 1911 census is the Hannah E who appears in the 1901 census...

Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
Lawton Hannah Elizabeth W. Derby 8b 519


And Henry who appears in the 1911 census is Robert H who appears in the 1901....

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
LAWTON Robert Henry W Derby 8b 597



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Mar 2013 19:59

I have checked out the info regarding the Father of George Francis Lawton.



Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Francis George Lawton
Name: Francis George Lawton
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1867
Baptism Date: 5 May 1867
Parish: Stanley St Anne
Father's Name: George Lawton (Dyer)
Mother's name: Ann Lawton
Abode: Poplar Grove


There is also this Baptism for a Francis Lawson.......

Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Francis Lawton
Name: Francis Lawton
Baptism Date: 24 Jan 1869
Parish: Edge Hill St Catherine
Father's Name: George Lawton (Porter)
Mother's name: Hannah Lawton
Abode: 57 Edward Street.


Here is the other Francis in the 1901 census...

1901 England Census
about Francis Lawton
Name: Francis Lawton
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Lawton
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 165
Piece: 3423
Folio: 38
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Lawton 35 (Ships S..man) Seas
Ann Lawton 33
John R Lawton 11
Samuel Lawton 10
Dinah Lawton 9


Son John's marriage record........

Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about John Richard Lawton
Name: John Richard Lawton
Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 24
Marriage Date: 16 Feb 1914
Parish: Liverpool All Saints
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Matthews
Father's Name: Francis George Lawton <<<(Seaman) Deceased
Spouse Father's Name: Patrick Matthews
One of the witnesses is Diana Lawton........Probably his Sister Dinah.

Francis George Lawton married Ann Jane Bretherton in 1889.

So it seems that the Father of George Francis Lawton is Francis Lawton (No middle name of George) and i would say that the parents of your Francis Lawton is George and Hannah........


1881 England Census
about Frank Lawton
Name: Frank Lawton
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Lawton
Mother's name: Hannah Lawton
Gender: Male
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 14 Railway Cottages
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby (Municipal)
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3708
Folio: 85
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
George Lawton 45 (Railway Inspector) Albaston Staffordshire
Hannah Lawton 42 West Bromwich Staffordshire
Edith Lawton 14 West Bromwich Staffordshire
Frank Lawton 12
Thomas Lawton 8
Harry Lawton 6
Alice Lawton 3
George Lawton
Henry Pears 21 (Boarder)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 27 Mar 2013 09:36

Although baptised as Francis, his parents obviously preferred to call him Frank. He appears as Frank on son George's marriage record too.

He is not with his parents in the 1871 census...

1871 England Census
about Frank Lawton
Name: Frank Lawton
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: Wavertree
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Wavertree
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 49
Piece: 3851
Folio: 106
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
John Summerfield 51
Harriott Summerfield 48
Frank Lawton 2
James Dunlop 22
June Dunlop 19






1871 England Census
about George Lawton
Name: George Lawton
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Lawton
Gender: Male
Where born: Adbaston, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Household schedule number: 169
Piece: 3846
Folio: 132
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
George Lawton 35 (Railway Beaksman)
Hannah Lawton 34
Edith Lawton 4
Matthew Bate 22 (Lodger)