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Samuel Rowe

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Stephen

Stephen Report 27 Mar 2013 12:20

I am looking for the ancestors of Samuel Rowe 1763-1847 from Woodford Northamptonshire.

Steve Roe

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Mar 2013 12:35

tree on ancestry has no details of parents

patchem

patchem Report 27 Mar 2013 12:36

Welcome to the boards, Stephen.

How did you get back to him - could you post a census entry?
Do you know that he was actually born in Woodford, or did he just die there?

A little more information would help us to try and help you.
Thank-you.

Added:
Presumably this death:
Deaths Mar 1847
Roe Samuel Thrapstone 15 309

Stephen

Stephen Report 27 Mar 2013 12:44

My father researced our family tree and this was as far back as he got. I think he probably always lived in Woodford, but I have no proof. The reason my father couldn't get back any further was this lack of information, which is why I am asking now.
Thanks for any help you can come up with.

patchem

patchem Report 27 Mar 2013 12:45

Which child and grandchild of Samuel are your direct ancestors?
Who was Samuel's wife?
Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 27 Mar 2013 12:52

Tree on ancestry has this linked source information for him:

UK, Land Tax Redemption, 1798 about Saml Roe
Proprietor: Rd Ollebar Esquire
Tenant: Saml Roe
Residence: Woodford, Northampton, England
Year: 1798
Volume: 1

Stephen

Stephen Report 27 Mar 2013 12:53

His wife was Jane sawcutt Foscutt. I think we are decended from Thomas Rowe/Roe, which my father thought was his son. However on another website it looks like he only had a daughter Sarah Rowe 1785-1853.All a bit confusing, but that's why I'm having trouble!

Stephen

Stephen Report 27 Mar 2013 15:51

There was a glitch with my registration, so I am not sure if this thread is still working.

patchem

patchem Report 27 Mar 2013 16:03

The thread is still working if you can see it and post to it.

Which son of Thomas Rowe did your father think you were descended from, so we can have a look at the censuses?

Stephen

Stephen Report 28 Mar 2013 11:15

Richard 1826-1910, who married Ann Frost

patchem

patchem Report 31 Mar 2013 08:02

Death registered under alternate spelling:
Richard Roe
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1910
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Northampton
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 41

and wedding also
Marriages Mar 1848
ADAMS Ann Northampton 15 431
Brown Elizabeth Northampton 15 431
xxxx FROST Ann Northampton 15 431
Hall David Northampton 15 431
xxxx Roe Richard Northampton 15 431
Spriggs Jonathan Northampton 15 431

Do you know if this is him?
1841 England Census
Richard Roe Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Stanion Hundred: Corby
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Kettering
Piece: 797 Book: 18 Folio: 4 Page Number: 3
Elizabeth Roe 60 All born locally
Susanah Roe 25
Richard Roe 15
Sarah Roe 1
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 797; Book: 18; Civil Parish: Stanion; County: Northamptonshire; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 4; Page: 3; Line: 3; GSU roll: 438874.
Added: Not convinced this is him.

ADDED; Not him, see Astra for Richd Roe

patchem

patchem Report 31 Mar 2013 08:28

?
1851 England Census
Richard Rae Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Rae
Gender: M (Male) Where born: Woodford, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Extraparochial Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Occupation: Cordwainer
Registration district: Northampton Sub-registration district: St Giles
Household schedule number: 57 Piece: 1739 Folio: 209 Page Number: 17
Richard Rae 24
Ann Rae 23
Sarah A Rae 2 Mo Northampton
Thomas Church 19
Thomas Smith 31
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1739; Folio: 209; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87694.

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1861 England Census
Richard Roe Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Roe
Gender: Male
Where born: Woodford, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Northampton St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England
Occupation: Clicker grocer's App ???
Registration district: Northampton Sub-registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Household schedule number: 64 Piece: 937 Folio: 52 Page Number: 12
Richard Roe 34
Ann Roe 32 Grendon
Sarah A E Roe 12 Northampton
Thomas D B Roe 8
Richard S F Roe 5
James W Roe 2
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 937; Folio: 52; Page: 12; GSU roll: 542724.

1881 England Census
Richard Roe Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Roe
Gender: Male Where born: Woodford, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Northampton Priory St Andrew County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England
Street Address: High Street Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: (Boot) Machinist
Registration district: Northampton Sub-registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Piece: 1550 Folio: 103 Page Number: 34
Richard Roe 54
Ann Roe 52
Richard Roe 25 machine agent
William Roe 16 clerk
Esther Roe 13
Jane Hatcher 50 sis-in-law married nurse Woodford
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1550; Folio: 103; Page: 34; GSU roll: 1341374.

Jane Hatcher would appear to be his sister not his sister-in-law if this is the marriage;
Marriages Sep 1850
Hatcher John Northampton 15 463
Roe Jane Northampton 15 463

Astra

Astra Report 31 Mar 2013 08:33

1841 ??

Apprentice to John Roe shoemaker. Maybe not his father but a relative perhaps?

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 814
Book/Folio: 9/8
Page: 9
Reg. District: Northampton
Sub District: St Giles
Parish: St Giles
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Northampton
Address: Chapel Place, St Giles, Northampton
County: Northamptonshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ROE, John M 30 1811 Northamptonshire
ROE, Dinah F 30 1811 Northamptonshire
ROE, Harriott F 11 1830 Northamptonshire
ROE, Saml M 20 1821 Northamptonshire
CHENEY, Matilda F 25 1816 Northamptonshire
ROE, Richd M 15 1826 Northamptonshire

patchem

patchem Report 31 Mar 2013 08:53

1841 England Census
Samuel Roe Age: 75 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1766
Gender: Male Where born: Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Woodford Hundred: Huxloe County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England
Occupation:
Registration district: Thrapston Sub-registration district: Thrapston
Piece: 803 Book: 24 Folio: 11 Page Number: 16
Samuel Roe 75
Jane Roe 75
Catherine Betts 40
Luceada Betts 14
Jesse Betts 6
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 803; Book: 24; Civil Parish: Woodford; County: Northamptonshire; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 11; Page: 16; Line: 4; GSU roll: 438877.

My ancestry has just crashed, sorry.

Catherine Row
Birth Date: 01 Jan 1798
Birthplace: Woodford, Northampton, England
Father's Name: Samuel Row
Mother's Name: Jane Row
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04951-9 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1999552 Reference ID: it2,#85

patchem

patchem Report 31 Mar 2013 09:02

Nam eTho'S. Row
Gender Male
Birth Date14 Nov 1800
Birthplace Woodford, Northampton, England
Father's Name Samuel Row
Mother's Name Jane Row
Indexing Project (Batch) NumberI04951-9
System OriginEngland-EASy
GS Film number1999552
Reference IDit2,#99

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Mar 2013 09:06

County Northamptonshire
Place Woodford
Church St. Mary's
RegisterNumber 380
BurialDate 06 Jan 1847
Forename Samuel
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname ROE
Age 84
Abode Woodford

County Northamptonshire
Place Woodford
Church St. Mary's
RegisterNumber 384
BurialDate 16 May 1847
Forename Jane
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname ROE
Age 84
Abode Woodford

(above on below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

patchem

patchem Report 31 Mar 2013 09:13

Samuel Row
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 05 Jan 1795
Birthplace: Woodford, Northampton, England
Father's Name: Samuel Row
Mother's Name: Jane Row
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04951-9
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1999552
Reference ID: it2,#98

patchem

patchem Report 31 Mar 2013 09:17

Wrong Richard?
Richard Row
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Oct 1821
Christening Place: Stanion, Northampton, England
Father's Name: Thomas Row
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Row
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04310-3
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1999977
Reference ID: Item 3 P 9 and 10

patchem

patchem Report 31 Mar 2013 09:23

The John Roe that Astra found in 1841
John Rowe
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 04 Nov 1813
Christening Place: Woodford, Northampton, England
Father's Name: William Rowe
Mother's Name: Anne Rowe
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04951-9
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1999552
Reference ID: it2,#15

and the Samuel?
Samuel Row
GenderMale
Christening Date20 Jun 1819
Christening Place Woodford (near Thrapston), Northampton, England
Father's Name Samuel Row
Mother's Name Jane
Indexing Project (Batch) NumberI00766-1 System OriginEngland-EASy
GS Film number6129459 Reference IDyr 1813-1858 p 13

Stephen

Stephen Report 31 Mar 2013 12:43

Thanks for lots of information :-) I need to sift through it all and see how it fits with the information I already have. I am also looking to see how Samuel Rowe born 24th September 1690, links to this Samuel Rowe.