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Look up on ancestry website please

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dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 27 Mar 2013 21:07

I am looking for a marriage, I believe in Dorset between John Samways and Elizabeth (EDIT MADE SORRY) unknown. First child i am aware of is baptised in 1781 (Edward Samways) Toller Porcorum and last 1786 (Stephen Samways). The dorset parish records it says are available on ancestry but i do not have this subscription, would someone please be willing to do this look up? thanks. Have followed this family and have Birth certificates/ marraige certificates and death certificates, now trying to go back via the parish registers.

Toller Porcorum,(Great Toller) registers start at dorset history centre in 1758, so unable to find a possible baptism for John Samways or Joan unknown. But apparently Toller Fratrum (Little Toller) registers go back further, so could they be baptised there?

All help very welcome

Yours

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 27 Mar 2013 21:19

???
Name: John Samways
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Nov 1778
Parish: East Lulworth
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Holland

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 27 Mar 2013 21:22

The date of marriage looks good

If find out East Lulworth is the home parish of Elizabeth this could be good. I have her death in 1821 age 79 years old -so hopefully born around 1742 if my calculation is right

Thanks

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 Mar 2013 21:22

Searched John Samways/Elizabeth/Dorset
John Samways Marriage 21 Apr 1711 Symondsbury Elizabeth Bucklow
John Samways Marriage 14 Dec 1723 Godmanstone Elizabeth Masters
John Samways Marriage 11 Feb 1733 Symondsbury Elizabeth Leak
John Samways Marriage 23 Mar 1739 Charminster Elizabeth Davis
John Samways Marriage 30 Jul 1744 Puncknowle Elizabeth Waldron
John Samways Banns 19 Jun 1766 Littlebredy Elizabeth Vine
John Samways Marriage 10 Nov 1778 East Lulworth Elizabeth Holland
John Samways Banns 18 Oct 1778 East Lulworth Elizabeth Holland

alviegal

alviegal Report 27 Mar 2013 21:23

Glad to see you amended the name...was beginning to think I was going daft not finding a Joan.

I know you have these births, Richard is the first, not Edward.


Richard Samways Christening 19 Aug 1781 Toller Porcorum John Samways,
Elizabeth Samways

Edwd Samways Christening 21 Mar 1784 Toller Porcorum John Samways,
Eliz Samways

Thomas Samways Christening 21 Mar 1784 Toller Porcorum John Samways,
Eliz Samways

Stephen Samways Christening 2 May 1787 Toller Porcorum John Samways,
Eliz Samways


EDIT I do apologise. Familysearch has Edward as the oldest.

NameEdward Samways
GenderMale
Christening Date19 Aug 1781
Christening PlaceToller-Porcorum, Dorset, England
Birth Date
Birthplace
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's NameJohn Samways
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's NameElizabeth

Kay????

Kay???? Report 27 Mar 2013 21:24

have a play about on.

www.familysearch.org........

its free and carries life events of many parish registers,,,,,,,less infomation produces more results,

Dorset PR are quite good.

alviegal

alviegal Report 27 Mar 2013 21:28

John Samways was of the Parish of West Salvore?? and Elizabeth Holland was of East Lulworth.
John Baker and Elizabeth Fooks or Forks were witnesses.

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 Mar 2013 21:29


Name:
Edward Samways
Christening Date:19 Aug 1781
Christening Place:Tarrant Rushton, Dorset, England
Father's Name:John Samways
Mother's name:Elizabeth

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 27 Mar 2013 21:31

Thanks everyone, I believe on family search some of the Toller Porocorum records are showing as Tarrent Ruston so very confusing using that site. However I still had 1781 as Edward as well as the twins Edward and Thomas 1784.

I dont know Dorset very well, and trying to look on maps as to how close East Lulworth is to Toller Porcorum. Will now look up West Salvore for John Samways as well.

Thanks again all for information

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 27 Mar 2013 21:35

alviegal

Where did you get the parish of West Salvore please -as can find nothing of this name, on old maps in uk.

thanks

alviegal

alviegal Report 27 Mar 2013 21:35

Had a look at the banns. The Parish is West Lulworth not West Salvore.

Sorry, the marriage record was very faded but the record of the banns is clearer.

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 27 Mar 2013 21:42

Oh thank you very much -was just looking on West Lulworth OPC for Holland and found Samways below

Elizabeth daughter of William & Anna SAMWAYS baptised 5 February 1733

William son of William & Anna SAMWAYS baptised 29 July 1736

Its not John but likely to be same family I would hope. But can not find baptism for Elizabeth Holland in East or West Lulworth.

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 27 Mar 2013 21:44

Think I have found him on West Lulworth parish registers via OPC

[20] Jul 1759 John son of William & Catherine SAMWAYS

alviegal

alviegal Report 27 Mar 2013 21:47

This is possibly the John who married Eliz Holland.

Name: John Samways
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 2 Jul 1759
Parish: West Lulworth
Father's Name: William Samways
Mother's name: Catherine Samways


Snap dancingqueen!!

dancingqueen

dancingqueen Report 27 Mar 2013 21:58

His burial is 1814 West Lulworth -now i first thought cant be same John Samways because of this -as they are in Toller Porcorum living, having children etc but although can find Elizabeths likely burial in 1821 Toller Porcorum, not Johns burial -but of course he could have been buried in home parish could even be family grave?