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A copy of George and Esther's marriage cert will give you the names and occupations of their fathers. (If they knew who their Fathers were of course!)

A possibility.......

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: GEORGE, Esther
Address: 3 Church Hill Cottages Hamstead Road Handsworth

GEORGE, Isaac Head Married M 65 1846 Shoeing Smith Retired Ripple Worcestershire
GEORGE, Elizabeth Wife Married40 years F 67 1844 Halesowen Worcestershire
GEORGE, Esther Daughter Single F 26 1885 Warehouse Hand Handsworth Staffordshire
GEORGE, Isaac Son Single M 21 1890 Mechnic Grinder Handsworth Staffordshire
CHURCHLEY, William Henry Grandson Single M 16 1895 Mechnic Grinder Aston Duddeston
RG number: RG14
Piece: 17243
Reference: RG14PN17243 RG78PN1059 RD371 SD1 ED38 SN10
Registration District: West Bromwich
Sub District: Handsworth
Enumeration District: 38
Parish: Handsworth
Address: 3 Church Hill Cottages Hamstead Road Handsworth
County: Staffordshire
(9 children born, 7 living, 2 had died)


1901 England Census
about Esther George
Name: Esther George
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Isaac George
Mother's name: Elizabeth George
Gender: Female
Where born: Handsworth, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Handsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Handsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 204
Piece: 2712
Folio: 44
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac George 51 (Blacksmith)
Elizabeth George 55
William George 22
Esther George 16
Ada E George 13
Isaac George 11
William H Churchley 6 (Grandson)

Electoral Rolls

Name: Dora May Dunford (Home Duties)
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1954
State: New South Wales
District: Banks
Subdistrict: Hurstville West
Address: 257 Dora Street

Also there Wilfred Dunford (Carpenter)

Name: Esther Lowe
Gender: Female
Age: 63
Birth Date: abt 1885
Departure Date: 15 Apr 1948
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Stratheden
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Stratheden' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: P and O
Master: S W S Dickson



Esther was travelling alone. She was a housewife of 51 Copeley Hill, Birmingham (same address as the Horrobin family)

Name: William H Horrobin
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Birth Date: abt 1910
Departure Date: 5 May 1949
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Ranchi
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Ranchi' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: P and O
Official Number: 148130
Master: R E J Tunbridge


EDIT

William was a Carpenter of 51 Copeley Hill, Erdington, Birmingham.

He was travelling with Hilda A, a housewife aged 36, June A, aged 14, Diane, aged 7 and Peter W, aged 3

Hi thank you, not sure if that is linked, the details ive found george and esther married 1911. But myndad did say donakd family went to australia. I really cant than you guys enough for your help xx

No you're not thick Nicola - just a learner as we all were once upon a time.

Donald is not listed as one of George's children on the Military records as that information was recorded before Donald was born.

It looks like Hilda and William emigrated sometime after the second world war but I haven't found any records of that yet. Still looking.

???

Marriages Jun 1935
Dunford Wilfred Lowe Birmingham 6d 79
Lowe Dora M Dunford Birmingham 6d 79


1 Son born to above marriage in 1941

If you think they may have gone to Australia?

Name: Dora M Dunford
Death Age: 46
Birth Date: abt 1915
Death Date: 24 Sep 1961
Cemetery: Woronora Cemetery
Cemetery Location: Sutherland, New South Wales, Australia
Burial Location: Sutherland


Marriages Jun 1934
Horrobin William H Lowe Birmingham 6d 58
Lowe Hilda A Horrobin Birmingham 6d 58


Possibly 2 daughters and a son on Freebmd to the above marriage.


Looks like they may have gone to Australia?

Name: Hilda A Horrobin
Death Date: 20 Aug 1973
Cemetery: Woronora Cemetery
Cemetery Location: Sutherland, New South Wales, Australia
Burial Location: Sutherland


Name: William H Horrobin
Birth Date: 1909
Age at Death: 71
Death Date: 1980
Burial Place: Laurieton, New South Wales, Australia

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Hilda A Lowe
Name: Hilda A Lowe
Mother's Maiden Name: George
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913
Registration district: King's Norton
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 47

Ooops sorry Rootgatherer.........i didn't see your earlier post.

Prickles.

Oh right, thank you, will have a look x

Ancestry Nicola.

You will need to buy a subscription to be able to view the images though.

P.S.......Your not thick!! We all had to start somewhere. :-)

Pricklyholly, where did you get those details from, as im intrigued to see the images and sorry for my bad grammer just getting used to my ipad lol xxxx

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about George Victor Lowe
Name: George Victor Lowe
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Age at enlistment: 28
Residence: 33 Church Vale, Handsworth Birmingham
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 150657
Regiment Name: Army Service ??
Number of images: 9
Occupation: Coppersmith.

Wife........Esther George...(Residence: 33 Church Vale, Handsworth, Birmingham
Married in the Parish Church, Handsworth Stafford 08/06/1911

Children.........
Hilda Alice 14th Jan 1913 Kings Norton
Dora May 8th Aug 1915 West Brom Handworth

My god, your blowing my mind lol. All i had to start with was my grandad ( donald v lowe) his age, whenhe died and the fact he served in hms newfondland. I was told he lied about his age, so he could serve. I found esthers maiden name off docs for donalds birth reg, so used her maiden name and the surname lowe, to findntheir marriage details. And thats as far as ive been able to go. Rootgatherer, do you think those details are connect to donalds dad as you havent listed donald? Im sorry if i sound think, and cant thank young guys enough.mthis is something that should have been done, whilst my nan ( donalds wife ) was a live. Xx

1911

Name: George Victor Lowe
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birmingham
Civil parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 119 Forster St Radford Notts
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Tinman (Gear Casemaker)
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North West
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Piece: 20626
Household Members: Name Age
William Grundy 66
Pheobe Grundy 60
Arthur Grundy 13
George Henry Hughes 22
George Victor Lowe 24

George Victor's WW1 records are on Ancestry.

Name: George Victor Lowe
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Age at enlistment: 28
Residence: 33 Church Vale, Handsworth Birmingham
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 150657
Regiment Name: Army Service ??
Number of images: 9


Occupation: Coppersmith
Wife Esther (Married in The Parish Church, Handsworth June 1911)

2 Children
Hilda Alice b. 14 January 1913 Kings Norton
Dora May b. 8 August 1915 West Bromwich

1419 is the page in the GRO index

Look at the record on freebmd to understand how the system operates

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Hi Nicola and welcome to the boards.

No that is the volume and page number.

As in.........Vol 6b page 1419

Handy for when you want to purchace copies of certificates.

You had 6 weeks to record a birth.......so even though Donald was born in Dec1924 his birth was not registered until the beginning of 1925.

Thank you guys! Thats great. And prickly holly is that the year 1419? Xxxx

a big gap then between Dora and Donald . but then theres a big gap again to Mavis!