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Mary Ann Armistead

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Mark

Mark Report 29 Mar 2013 12:10

I have found the following birth registration for my ancestor and also an entry in the 1851 census. Struggling to find any further details...

Name: Mary Ann Armistead
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1848
Registration district: Blackburn
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume:21
Page:16 (click to see others on page)

1851

James Armistead 62 Grocer
Ann Armistead 54 mmn Winder
Wm Armistead 20
Magaret Armistead 7
M A Armistead 3 Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Many thanks

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 29 Mar 2013 12:17

So how are you related if your ancestor ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 29 Mar 2013 12:19

??

Births Mar 1848 (>99%)
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ARMISTEAD Mary Ann Blackburn 21 16

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Deaths Mar 1848 (>99%)
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Armistead Mary Ann Blackburn 21 16

Mark

Mark Report 29 Mar 2013 12:19

Mary Ann Armistead is a sister to Jane Armistead who is my 3x great grandmother

Mark

Mark Report 29 Mar 2013 12:20

She is on the 1851 census so cannot be dead Glitterbaby

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Mar 2013 12:23

I wonder if she was really a daughter? While not impossible, An would have been 51 when she was born. I addition, apart from James (Whittington Lancs) the rest of the family were born In Westmorland.

Here is the family 1841. I am just speculating that (maybe) Mary was daughter to one of the older girls?

Just a thought!

1841 England Census
Name: James Armistead
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Kirkby Lonsdale
Hundred: Lonsdale
County/Island: Westmorland

Registration district: Kendal
Sub-registration district: Kirkby Lonsdale
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1161
Book: 10
Folio: 8
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
James Armistead 50
Ann Armistead 45
James Armistead 25
Agnes Armistead 14
Jane Armistead 12
William Armistead 10
George Armistead 5
George Alston 15

Jan

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Mar 2013 12:23

1861 England Census about Margret Armistead
Name: Margret Armistead
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Ann Armistead
Gender: Female
Where born: Lupton, Westmorland, England
Civil parish: Cabus
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:Toll Barr

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Garstang
Sub-registration district: Garstang
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Piece: 3153
Folio: 20
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Armistead 64 widow occ gatekeeper
Margret Armistead 17 occ assistant to mum

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 3153; Folio: 20; Page: 1; GSU roll: 543088.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 29 Mar 2013 12:25

But her birth might not have been registered as it was not compulsory until 1870's.

You showed the birth for Blackburn and I posted a possible death.

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 29 Mar 2013 13:57

From LancashireBMD

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1848
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
ARMISTEAD Mary Ann 0 Blackburn Blackburn B/25/28

Does look like the one born in Blackburn in 1848, that GlitterBaby posted, died soon after birth.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Mar 2013 13:58

I agree that Ann is probably too old to be her mother (not totally impossible, but unlikely).

Mark - how do you know that M A on the 1851 stands for Mary Ann, and not say Margaret Ann? (Or do you have other info that proves that it all fits?)

I really think you can discount the Blackburn birth. As you know, there was no compulsion to register births until c1874, my theory is that if a child was illegitimate the birth was even less likely to be registered. I think there's a good chance she could be the child of Jane or Agnes.

Mark

Mark Report 29 Mar 2013 14:31

I think I will order the birth certificate to make sure..

Thanks

Mark

Mark Report 29 Mar 2013 14:43

according to lancashirebmd
1848
mmn Ainsworth Blackburn birth

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Mar 2013 14:56

Looks like it does rule her out if Ann's maiden name was Winder, then.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Mar 2013 15:05

I agree you need to get the birth cert. If she turns out to be someone else's daughter you can then look for parent(s) 1861.
Jan