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John McCleery and Nannie Usher

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Jackie

Jackie Report 31 Mar 2013 23:17

This couple born 1839 and 1841 lived in Belfast and Dundalk. They had several children including William Usher Mccleery who was my great grandfather. I am looking for info on any of the others especially their daughter Polly.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 31 Mar 2013 23:26

Hello Jackie, although you give locations as Belfast and Dundalk this Dublin marriage fits -

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
Name: Nannie Usher
Date of Registration: 1858
Registration district: Dublin North
Volume: 5
Page Number: 74
FHL Film Number: 101247

Records on Page:
Name
Christopher Halahan
Elizabeth Catherine Dobbin Halahan
John Harrison
Francis Cahil
Sarah Morton
Nannie Usher
John McCleery <<<
Bridget Meredith

Alemap

Alemap Report 31 Mar 2013 23:38

Marriage, as MC says in Dublin to see the record go to irishgenealogy.ie

Husband Wife
Name JOHN MCCLEERY NANNIE USHER
Address FRANCIS ST DUNDALK 16 GRENVILLE ST & DUNDALK
Occupation COMMERCIAL CLERK N/R
Father HUGH MCCLEERY WILLIAM USHER
Mother N/R N/R
Further details in the record
Husband Age FULL
Husband Marital Status B
Wife Age FULL
Wife Marital Status S
Husband's Father's Occupation ESQRE
Wife's Father's Occupation ESQRE
Witness 1 WILLIAM WOODS (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
Witness 3 ROBERT MCCLEERY (WITNESS FOR WIFE)

Jackie

Jackie Report 31 Mar 2013 23:40

Hi Marie
I already have their marriage but they lived in Belfast and Nannie died in Dundalk where her family lived. It is the children I am stumped on. Hugh I think went to New York but can't find Polly, Ben or Frank.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Apr 2013 10:03

Hi Jackie, we post whatever info we find to try to get a profile of the people we're looking for. In this case it's helpful to know they were in Dublin - some of the children may have been born there so we would use that for looking for births - you didn't mention all of the names in your opening post.

Seeing as you do know some names, do you have birth years and birthplaces for all of them?

Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 11:16

Hi Marie
John Mccleery was a Belfast man I think and was part of a cloth making business. Nannie came from Dundalk and I know she was there in1885 as her mother, Frances Alicia Usher ( 1809-1885) died at her home.
The children
William Usher Mccleery 1871-1917 was born in Belfast on the Shankhill Road. I know quite a lot about him as he was my Great Great Grandfather.
Hugh 1882 went to New York. Not sure where he was born.
George 1877, know nothing else about him.
Frank nothing known
John jr nothing known
Polly nothing known
I know they married in Dublin but absolutely no idea why.
I have just ordered Nannie Usher's death certificate to see if I can glean any more info. No idea when John died as the only deathI can find is for a William John.
Thanks for all your help.

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 11:20

Is this Frank?


Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958

Name: Francis McCleery
Date of Registration: 1875
Registration district: Dundalk
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 12
Page: 757
FHL Film Number: 101052


Hmmm.......maybe not

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: Francis Mc Cleery
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 Jul 1875
Birth Place: Louth, Ireland
Father's Name: John Mc Cleery
Mother's name: Ann Maher
FHL Film Number: 255935




and this?


Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958

Name: Frances Alicia McCleery
Date of Registration: 1868
Registration district: Dundalk
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 2
Page: 835
FHL Film Number: 101045

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 11:25

I was wondering about this one too.......could it be a transcription error on the mothers first name and an error on the surname spelling?


Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911

Name: George Smallman Mccleary
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 29 Mar 1878
Birth Place: Dundalk, Louth, Ireland
Father's Name: John Mccleary
Mother's name: Minie Mccleary Ussher
FHL Film Number: 256003

Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 11:38

France's DOB I got from the death registration.
I also thought I had found Frank when I found Francis but the wrong parents.
George Smallman Mccleery could well be right.

Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 11:42

I think George was born 4 April 1876 in Antrim.
Any sign of Polly. Not sure what Polly is short for. Tried Pauline and Mary as typical Irish names but they were not Catholic.

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 11:44

This looks like the above

U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: George Smallman McCleery
Birth Date: 29 Mar 1878
Birth Place: Ireland
Residence: Mid, Massachusetts
Race: White

NOK Esther McCleery


1930 United States Federal Census
Name: George S Mccleery
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Ireland
Race: White
Home in 1930: Somerville, Middlesex, Massachusetts
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1926
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Esther A Mccleery
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George S Mccleery 52
Esther A Mccleery 48
Ronald G Mccleery 20
Violet F Mccleery 19
Leslie E Mccleery 16
Dorothy Mccleery 14
Robert B Mccleery 10
Rae Mccleery 6


Social Security Death Index
Name: George McCleery
SSN: 028-07-6220
Last Residence: Massachusetts
Born: 29 Mar 1878
Died: Sep 1963
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 11:53

1940 United States Federal Census
about George McClerry
Name: George McClerry
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Somerville, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Street: Waldo Street
House Number: 18
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Somerville, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 14A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 269
Occupation: Carpenter
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 45
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1750
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George McClerry 60
Esther McClerry 58
Roland McClerry 30
Lester McClerry 26
Dorothy McClerry 23
Robert McClerry 22
Raymond McClerry 16


Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 12:09

This looks pretty conclusive to me. Thanks.
Keep on the case!

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 12:44

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958

Name: Frances Alicia M'Cleery
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1891
Registration district: Newry
Volume: 1
Page Number: 905
FHL Film Number: 101256
Records on Page: Name
Spouse: Robert John Ewing


1901 Irish Census

Residents of a house 33 in Bridge Street (Newry West Urban, Down)

Foster Harriet 24 Female Boarder Presbyterian Co Monaghan Saleswoman Read and write - Not Married -
Barbour Matilda 26 Female Boarder Presbyterian Co Tyrone Milliner Read and write - Not Married -
Ewing Anna 8 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Derry Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
M Cleery John 78 Male Father in Law Church of Ireland Co Antrim - Read and write - Widower -
Ewing Robert 34 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Armagh Book Keeper Read and write - Married -
Ewing Frances 32 Female Wife Presbyterian

1911


Residents of a house 6 in Main Street (Ballybary Urban, Monaghan)

Ewing Frances Alicia 42 Female Head of House House Keeper Presbyterian Co Louth House Keeper Read and write - Married - 19 1 -
Dixon Robert 33 Male Grocery Assistant Methodist Co Fermanagh Grocery Assistant Read and write - Single - - - -
Seed James Henry 29 Male Book Keeper Church of Ireland Co Down Book Keeper Read and write - Single - - - -
Browne Albert 22 Male Hardware Assistant Presbyterian Co Cavan Hardware Assistant Read and write - Single - - - -
McWilliam George 20 Male Grocery Assistant Presbyterian Co Tyrone Grocery Assistant Read and write - Single - - - -
Caldwell Samuel 18 Male Apprentice Church of Ireland Co Monaghan Grocery Apprentice Read and write - Single - - - -
Turbett David 20 Male Grocery Assistant Presbyterian Co Monaghan Grocery Assistant Read and write - Single - - - -
Knox Robert 17 Male Apprentice Presbyterian Co Monaghan Hardware Apprentice Read and write - Single - - - -
Lester William George 17 Male Apprentice Presbyterian Co Monaghan Hardware Apprentice Read and write - Single - - - -
Wright John James 16 Male Apprentice Presbyterian Co Monaghan Grocery Apprentice Read and write - Single - - - -
Kincaid Hueston 18 Male Apprentice Presbyterian Co Cavan Hardware Apprentice Read and write - Single - - - -
McCaul Bridget 29 Female Servant Roman Catholic

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 12:54

A possible death for John


Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
Name: John McCleery
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1912
Death Age: 89
Registration district: Belfast
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 287
FHL Film Number: 0101605

Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 13:42

Bit confused about Frances Alicia Mccleery. I have F A Usher married to William Usher Nannies parents.

Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 13:42

Bit confused about Frances Alicia Mccleery. I have F A Usher married to William Usher Nannies parents.

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 13:59

I would guess that Nannie and John named the child after her grandmother...quite common place back then

Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 17:57

Thank you Marie for all your help

Sharon

Sharon Report 30 May 2013 17:37

My apologies if this is a duplicate post, but I see no evidence that my first post actually appeared.

George Smallman McCleary is in fact the son of John McCleary and Nannie Usher, according to his SS-5 application, and was born in Dundalk. John, George, George's wife Esther (sometimes Hester) Elliot McCleary, and their infant daughter Violet appear together in the 1911 census in Belfast. George's son Ronald is with his grandfather David Elliott in Donegal. I have been unsuccessful at finding George or John in 1901.

George's daughter Rae believes that at least one of the siblings ended up in Liverpool, but since she was only 4 when the family emigrated to the U.S. (1928), she doesn't know much about the remainder of the family. George and his family do appear in the 1940 census in Massachusetts but with most of the children's names slightly off. (Rae for instance is given as son Raymond).

I would be very interested in what Nannie's death certificate says. I found her obit in a New York paper but that did not provide much useful information other than her address in Dundalk and that she died there as a result of a street accident.