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John McCleery and Nannie Usher

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Clifford

Clifford Report 4 Feb 2014 01:50

Hello Jackie: You had mentioned that you have a photo of some of the McCleery Clan, I would love to have a copy of the photo. What is the best way to get it. You could scan and attach to an email sent to my address a LQUINN8@COGECO.CA or if you would like, I could send you my address to send it to.
Barry Quinn

Clifford

Clifford Report 4 Feb 2014 01:47

Hello All McCleery Clan: I am going to Belfast in April to do some family study at PRONI if you want any special information looked up please let me know. I will be there for a few days mainly doing study on the Quinn/Quin, and Hamilton family. I have lots of information on the Usher Family, Frances (Hamilton) Quinn/Usher's mother is Frances Usher who married Lt. Robert Lucas Hamilton. Frances (Hamilton) first married Peter Quin of Banbridge Co. Down, upon her death she married her cousin William Usher of Dublin. Their daughter Nannie married John M'Cleery.
Regards
Barry Quinn
Ancaster, Canada

Clifford

Clifford Report 7 Nov 2013 17:40

Hello: For those wishing to be in touch first hand by email, I have given the wrong email address. My email address is lquinn8@cogeco.ca that is LQUINN8@COGECO.CA Sorry for any confusion that I may have created.
Barry Quinn
Ancaster, Canada

Clifford

Clifford Report 16 Sep 2013 05:21

Hello Jackie: I do not have any photos of the clan of Mccleery. There are precious few of the the Quinn Clan. I would love to have a photo of Nanny and John. As I mentioned earlier Nanny is the daughter of my great grandmother Frances Hamilton who married first Peter Quin and then William Usher. I know that Frances was living with John and Nanny upon her death and much of the family lands were left to the Mccleery family in County Down and Armagh. I do have a cousin who is doing some research of Frances (Hamilton) Usher last will at PRONI as I want to know more about the whereabouts of the properties of Robert Hamilton. I believe the Hugh Mccleery lived on family lands in Dromore, Co. Down.
My email address is LOUISEQUINN8@COGECO.CA I have put the address is capitals so that you know the first letter is an L and not a 1, otherwise louisequinn8@cogeco.ca
I live at
32 Menton Drive
Ancaster, Ontario
CANADA
L9K 0E5
Many thanks
Barry Quinn

Jackie

Jackie Report 29 Aug 2013 08:48

Hi Barry
Have you any photos of the Mccleery clan? I have a photo of Nanny and John Mccleery with siblings but need it confirmed. I know one of the women is Margaret Kirk as she is my paternal grandmother. I can send the photo if you would like.
Jackie

Clifford

Clifford Report 28 Jun 2013 04:09

Nannie was referred to both as Nannie, Anne and Ann. Here is what I have.
John was referred to as both a Railway Clerk and a Pawnbroker Clerk
Robert McCleery baptised 11/03/1866
John McCleery baptised 09/08/1863
Hugh McCleery baptised 21/08/1859
George Smallman McCleery baptised 16/03/1882 or 14/03/1882 both listed
Fany Alicia baptised 09/08/1868
William Robert baptised 11/08/1861and died 4 November 1861
Benjamin Hamilton McCleery (named after Nannie's brother) 10/12/1876
Francis McCleery (a twin to Benjamin) baptised 10/12/1876
Nannie died of burns on 28/12/1896 and is buried in New Cemetery on30/12/1896 she was living at Francis Street in Dundalk at the time.
All of the above children were baptised in the Parish Dundalk and the names are registered in the Dundalk Parish Register.

Barry Quinn

Clifford

Clifford Report 25 Jun 2013 05:43

I will try to follow up shortly. Nannie would have been an Aunt to my grandfather. Nannie's step brother Peter Quinn moved to England and Nannie's brother was living with my great grandfather in Liverpool as I mentioned. I will try to find some things and get them to you. Where is Rae located?

Sharon

Sharon Report 25 Jun 2013 05:00

Hi Barry,

I've seen the record for John and Nannie's marriage. I had seen earlier postings (different boards) indicating that Peter Quinn was Nannie's stepbrother but I wasn't aware of any other children. Would love to get more details. As I"m sure you know, it's rather challenging doing research from this side of the pond.

I'm not a direct descendent of the family, but I'm doing it for a good friend Rae McCleery, who is George Smallman McCleery's daughter (and therefore Nannie's granddaughter).

Clifford

Clifford Report 22 Jun 2013 07:12

The mother of Nannie McCleery (M'Cleary) is Frances Alicia Hamilton and her father is William Usher of Dubliln. Nannie and John were married in Dublin at St. George's Church of Ireland. I do have wedding infomation but will have to look it up. My Usher Cousin in Dublin just informed me of this thread. Frances Alicia Hamilton first married Peter Quin in November 1827 in Dublin, they lived in Banbridge and had 2 children John Quinn and Peter my great grandfather. Peter Quin died in Banbridge December 1829 and Frances secondly married her cousin William Usher of Dublin, Lower Ormond Quay. Frances father was Lt. Robert Hamilton of Scarva and her mother Frances Usher, otherwise Usher of Eyrecourt, co. Galway. Frances Alicia died at Francis Street, Dundalk.
Nannie's brother Benjamin Hamilton Usher lived with my great grandfather Peter Quinn at 32 Belmont Road in West Derby Rural, a suburb of Liverpool. He shows on census as being step son but in fact step brother. Benjamin Hamilton usher died in Sydney, Australia leaving one daughter and wife. Nannie has several brothers and sisters. I will add to this when I get the chance.
Barry Quinn
Canada

Jackie

Jackie Report 17 Jun 2013 15:53

Hi Sharon
Just seen your post.
I have the death certificate and newspaper cuttings for Nannie Usher. She dies 6 days after being burnt at home. She was on her own knitting when, they think a gas light exploded and her dress caught alight. She died as a result.

Sharon

Sharon Report 30 May 2013 17:52

Just realized that the 1940 census listing is given above. Roland is actually Ronald and Raymond is Rae, daughter rather than son. At the time of their emigration in 1928 (Esther and the 4 youngest kids), their address was 84 Ogilvie St, Belfast. George had emigrated in 1926, while Ronald and Violet had come over separately earlier in 1928.

George's sponsor when he came over was his brother-in-law Stuart Rea. Since his wife was an Elliott, there is a good chance that Stuart was married to a McCleary daughter.

Sharon

Sharon Report 30 May 2013 17:37

My apologies if this is a duplicate post, but I see no evidence that my first post actually appeared.

George Smallman McCleary is in fact the son of John McCleary and Nannie Usher, according to his SS-5 application, and was born in Dundalk. John, George, George's wife Esther (sometimes Hester) Elliot McCleary, and their infant daughter Violet appear together in the 1911 census in Belfast. George's son Ronald is with his grandfather David Elliott in Donegal. I have been unsuccessful at finding George or John in 1901.

George's daughter Rae believes that at least one of the siblings ended up in Liverpool, but since she was only 4 when the family emigrated to the U.S. (1928), she doesn't know much about the remainder of the family. George and his family do appear in the 1940 census in Massachusetts but with most of the children's names slightly off. (Rae for instance is given as son Raymond).

I would be very interested in what Nannie's death certificate says. I found her obit in a New York paper but that did not provide much useful information other than her address in Dundalk and that she died there as a result of a street accident.

Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 17:57

Thank you Marie for all your help

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 13:59

I would guess that Nannie and John named the child after her grandmother...quite common place back then

Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 13:42

Bit confused about Frances Alicia Mccleery. I have F A Usher married to William Usher Nannies parents.

Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 13:42

Bit confused about Frances Alicia Mccleery. I have F A Usher married to William Usher Nannies parents.

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 12:54

A possible death for John


Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
Name: John McCleery
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1912
Death Age: 89
Registration district: Belfast
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 287
FHL Film Number: 0101605

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 12:44

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958

Name: Frances Alicia M'Cleery
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1891
Registration district: Newry
Volume: 1
Page Number: 905
FHL Film Number: 101256
Records on Page: Name
Spouse: Robert John Ewing


1901 Irish Census

Residents of a house 33 in Bridge Street (Newry West Urban, Down)

Foster Harriet 24 Female Boarder Presbyterian Co Monaghan Saleswoman Read and write - Not Married -
Barbour Matilda 26 Female Boarder Presbyterian Co Tyrone Milliner Read and write - Not Married -
Ewing Anna 8 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Derry Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
M Cleery John 78 Male Father in Law Church of Ireland Co Antrim - Read and write - Widower -
Ewing Robert 34 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Armagh Book Keeper Read and write - Married -
Ewing Frances 32 Female Wife Presbyterian

1911


Residents of a house 6 in Main Street (Ballybary Urban, Monaghan)

Ewing Frances Alicia 42 Female Head of House House Keeper Presbyterian Co Louth House Keeper Read and write - Married - 19 1 -
Dixon Robert 33 Male Grocery Assistant Methodist Co Fermanagh Grocery Assistant Read and write - Single - - - -
Seed James Henry 29 Male Book Keeper Church of Ireland Co Down Book Keeper Read and write - Single - - - -
Browne Albert 22 Male Hardware Assistant Presbyterian Co Cavan Hardware Assistant Read and write - Single - - - -
McWilliam George 20 Male Grocery Assistant Presbyterian Co Tyrone Grocery Assistant Read and write - Single - - - -
Caldwell Samuel 18 Male Apprentice Church of Ireland Co Monaghan Grocery Apprentice Read and write - Single - - - -
Turbett David 20 Male Grocery Assistant Presbyterian Co Monaghan Grocery Assistant Read and write - Single - - - -
Knox Robert 17 Male Apprentice Presbyterian Co Monaghan Hardware Apprentice Read and write - Single - - - -
Lester William George 17 Male Apprentice Presbyterian Co Monaghan Hardware Apprentice Read and write - Single - - - -
Wright John James 16 Male Apprentice Presbyterian Co Monaghan Grocery Apprentice Read and write - Single - - - -
Kincaid Hueston 18 Male Apprentice Presbyterian Co Cavan Hardware Apprentice Read and write - Single - - - -
McCaul Bridget 29 Female Servant Roman Catholic

Jackie

Jackie Report 1 Apr 2013 12:09

This looks pretty conclusive to me. Thanks.
Keep on the case!

Gins

Gins Report 1 Apr 2013 11:53

1940 United States Federal Census
about George McClerry
Name: George McClerry
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Somerville, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Street: Waldo Street
House Number: 18
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Somerville, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 14A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 269
Occupation: Carpenter
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 45
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 1750
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George McClerry 60
Esther McClerry 58
Roland McClerry 30
Lester McClerry 26
Dorothy McClerry 23
Robert McClerry 22
Raymond McClerry 16