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Thomas Lewis middlesex

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Susanne

Susanne Report 1 Apr 2013 05:10

Would anyone be able to give me 1851 census of
Thomas Lewis born round 1797 his wife Margaret daughter Sarah may have been away . Lived westminster or maybe Hackney area not sure. Just love to know know if more in family and where all born.
Thanks
Sue

Flip

Flip Report 1 Apr 2013 06:56

Do you have them on any other census, if so could you post it up - there's nothing jumping out for a Thomas and Margaret in the right area. Do you know where they were born, his occupation and her age please?

Astra

Astra Report 1 Apr 2013 07:30

Just a shot in the dark

1851 census transcription details for: 59, Poland Street, Saint Jamess, Westminster


National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1485
Folio: 281
Page: 10
Reg. District: Saint James Westminster
Sub District: Golden Square
Parish: Saint Jamess
Enum. District: 6B
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Westminster
Address: 59, Poland Street, Saint Jamess, Westminster
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LEWIS, Margaret Head Widow F 53 1798
?, Glamorganshire
LEWIS, Sarah E Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 Milliner
Westminster
LEWIS, Margaret Daughter F 15 1836 Dress Maker
Westminster
LEWIS, Esther Daughter F 13 1838 At Home
Westminster
PIKE, Thomas Lodger Unmarried M 20 1831 Carpenter
Yarmouth, Norfolk
PURIE, Edwin Visitor Unmarried M 21 1830 Carpenter
Haydon Bridge, Wiltshire
BELLING, William Visitor Widower M 63 1788 Saddler
Hampstead, Middlesex

1841 for same family

Name: Sarah Lewis
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St James
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Household Members:
Name Age
T Lewis 47>>>>>>Tailor
Margaret Lewis 44
Sarah Lewis 7
Margarette Lewis 5
Esther Lewis 3

Astra

Astra Report 1 Apr 2013 07:44

Possible deaths for Thomas

Deaths Dec 1842 (>99%)
LEWIS Thomas St. Jas. Westr. 1 91

Deaths Mar 1846 (>99%)
LEWIS Thomas St James 1 87

Susanne

Susanne Report 1 Apr 2013 08:56

Hi Astra,
Sorry this is weird 1841 cencus that looks good 1851 daughter Sarah E our one is Sarah Jane Lewis this was what i was trying to find ou more about this family. Some census say Sarah born Westminister and one says Lambeth. Thomas born around 1794 and wife Margaret born around 1797 where both born dont know. their daughter sarah jane married South Hackney in 1856 at St John and her dad looked to be a Witness. Thomas was a cab proprieter. I wonder if living apart thomas and margaret.
thank you very much for the help. Sue

Susanne

Susanne Report 1 Apr 2013 08:56

Hi Astra,
Sorry this is weird 1841 cencus that looks good 1851 daughter Sarah E our one is Sarah Jane Lewis this was what i was trying to find ou more about this family. Some census say Sarah born Westminister and one says Lambeth. Thomas born around 1794 and wife Margaret born around 1797 where both born dont know. their daughter sarah jane married South Hackney in 1856 at St John and her dad looked to be a Witness. Thomas was a cab proprieter. I wonder if living apart thomas and margaret.
thank you very much for the help. Sue

Flip

Flip Report 1 Apr 2013 10:12

Is this the marriage?

Sarah Jane Lewis
Spouse Name: James Baker (lighterman)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Oct 1858
Parish: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Thomas Lewis (cab proprietor)
Spouse Father Name: James Baker
Register Type: Parish Register

No ages of address given, other than South Hackney.

Flip

Flip Report 1 Apr 2013 10:23

What else do you have on them - ie how have you arrived at their ages, and know Margaret's name? When was Sarah born?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 1 Apr 2013 10:47

Is this her in 1861?

BAKER, James Head Married M 26 1835 Lighterman Servant Brentford, Middlesex
BAKER, Sarah Wife Married F 27 1834 Westminster, Middlesex
BAKER, Jane M Daughter F 1 1860 Richmond, Surrey
BAKER, Sarah Daughter F 0 (5M) 1861 Richmond, Surrey

Piece: 459 Folio: 90 Page: 30
Registration District: Richmond
Civil Parish: Richmond

Address: 1, Paved Court, Richmond County: Surrey

Astra

Astra Report 1 Apr 2013 11:16

This Thomas is a coachman but mother appears to be Mary

Name: Sarah Lewis
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Lewis 40
Mary Lewis 35
Sarah Lewis 7
Thomas Lewis 3

Susanne

Susanne Report 2 Apr 2013 04:59

THANK YOU ALL, THIS FAMILY LOOKS STRANGE 1841 IS RIGHT AND I AM THINKING THE FAMILY OF THE SAME ADDRESS IN 1851 CENSUS IS RIGHT. TWO THINGS SARAH WAS SARAH jANE AND SEEMS THOMAS WAS A WITNESS AT HER WEDDING 1858 MAY HAVE BEEN ANOTHER THOMAS IN HER FAMILY.
YES SARAH DID MARRY JAMES BAKER IN 1858. WAS WANDERING IF ANY KIND PERSON COULD LOOK UP 1851 OF JAMES BAKERS PARENTS
!841 I HAVE JAMES BORN 1809
WIFE MARIA BORN 1809
JAMES OF ABOVE BORN BRENTFORD. (MARRIED SARAH lEWIS 1858)
JANE 2 BORN 1839
THEY WERE EITHER IN THE MIDDLEX OR sURREY REGION.
THANK YOU SUE

Astra

Astra Report 2 Apr 2013 08:39

If Thomas was a Cab Proprietor on Sarah's marriage certificate then obviously the Thomas in the 1841 who is a Tailor is not correct.
How do you know that his wife's name was Margaret please?
Which of Sarah's children is your direct descendent?

Susanne

Susanne Report 2 Apr 2013 12:01

Sarahs Child connected to us is Alfred Baker. I found a family tree for a Sarah J Lewis on a website Stating her Dad Thomas, Mum Margaret, sisters Esther, Margaret that was all about them and then it went on to our side sarah but dont know the person who put it on have been in touch but no word back. I have a relation in Perthshire who was a tailor then two census later was a farmer.
Sue