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When Did Uncle Jim Go to India Interesting Update

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Apr 2013 09:53

Here's a link about records of births / deaths at sea.

http://www.genguide.co.uk/source/civil-registration--birth-marriages-amp-deaths-at-sea-overseas/194/

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 3 Apr 2013 08:59

Yes Chris I found that one ..."they left again in November of that year". My problem is that that is the last I find of her travelling and, if my cousin's memories are correct and she met Yuki then she had to be around in the early 30's (even then it's stretching the imagination to believe a four year old had such memories!)

I'm seeing my dad later - he was born in 1926 - and I'll see what he remembers!

I just know at some point they went off together and she died on the way out so he (eventually) came back alone.

Downloaded the census off FMP - not entirely convinced it's him but can't find anything better! I am sure he was in the Navy be it RN or Merchant (and that's how he met Yuki). I didn't know he was a police inspector though - another question for my dad!

Jude

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Apr 2013 08:35

Outgoing
Name: Mrs Y IRVINE
Date of departure: 13 November 1926
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Colombo, Sri Lanka (Ceylon)
Passenger destination: Colombo, Sri Lanka (Ceylon)
Date of Birth: 1886 (calculated from age)
Age: 40
Marital status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation: Home Duties
Passenger recorded on: Pag3 14 of 39
Mr J H IRVINE
Ship: ORAMA
Official Number: 146024
Master's name: Capt W S Shelford
Steamship Line: Orient.
Where bound: Australia
Square feet: 26388
Registered tonnage: 11942
Passengers on voyage: 1391
(Police Inspector, address, Normanhurst, Chepstow Road)

Chris :)

edits (looking at Incoming Images 1926 and 1933, Country of last Residence given as India)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 3 Apr 2013 08:25

Well I have constructed a picture of sorts but there are pieces missing!

The couple arrived in London in May 1926 having departed from Brisbane (I assume that they arrived in Brisbane at some point from the Far East). They left again in November of that year.

And that's the last I find of Yuki.

In 1933 James travelled alone from Brisbane to London in March/April and then in September of that year travelled back to Colombo. I next have him travelling back from Brisbane in 1935.

So sometime between November 1926 and 1933 the couple must have travelled back to Wales - my cousin was born in 1929 and she remembers Yuki. And then they must have travelled back before 1933 and, if the story my cousin remembers is correct, Yuki died on the voyage.

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 3 Apr 2013 07:41

Oh Vicci...that incoming one he has wife Yuki with him (I knew her name was Yuki but not that they married...or at least purported to!)

Thank you so much!

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 3 Apr 2013 07:17

Oh Vicci! Super! Normanhurst was my grandfather's house (Jame's sister) and where my dad was born.

Thanks ever so!

Chris will look at that military and see what it says

Jude

Vicci

Vicci Report 2 Apr 2013 22:59

same guy arriving from Australia in 1926


Name: James Irvine
Birth Date: abt 1886
Age: 40
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 13 May 1926
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne
[Sydney]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Plymouth]
Ship Name: Ormonde
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ormonde' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 141866

Vicci

Vicci Report 2 Apr 2013 22:39

Name: Mr J N Irvine
Gender: Male
Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1886
Departure Date: 30 Sep 1933
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Colombo, Sri Lanka
Ship Name: Orford
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Orford' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Orient Line
Official Number: 14026
Master: A L Owens


address "Normanhurst" Chepstow Road Newport
occupation police inspector
unaccompanied
destination India
last permanent residence "other part of the Britsh Empire"

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Apr 2013 22:06

1911 ?
IRVINE, James Married ? 26 1885 Forfar Forfarshire (Single on image)
RG number: RG14
Piece: 34975
Reference: RG14PN34975 RD640 SD6 ED1 SN9999
Registration District:
Sub District:
Enumeration District: 1
Parish:
Address: H M T Rewa C/o Embarkatim Staff Office
County: Royal Navy at Sea and in ports abroad
H M T Rewa C/o Embarkatim Staff Office, SHIP: HMT REWA, EMBARKATION STAFF OFFICE, HAMPSHIRE, SOUTHAMPTON
Military details: L C 2 West Kent Rt

Chris :)

Vicci

Vicci Report 2 Apr 2013 21:57

1901 for info
IRVINE, Elizabeth Head Widow F 47 1854 Caretaker Of Engineers Institute (@ 132)
Scotland VIEW
IRVINE, Isabella Daughter Single F 18 1883 Barmaid
Scotland VIEW
IRVINE, James Son Single M 16 1885 Iron Moulder
Scotland VIEW
IRVINE, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1891 School
Newport, Monmouthshire VIEW

Piece: 4958

Folio: 82

Page: 3

Registration District: Newport

Civil Parish: Newport

Municipal Borough:

Address: 132, Commercial Road, Newport

County: Monmouthshire

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Apr 2013 21:28

PLEASE GO TO LAST POST!

I hope I haven't asked this before :-(

My grandmother's brother James Neish Irvine, born Dundee in 1885, moved with his parents and siblings to Newport Monmouthshire. I can't find him in 1911 census.

I know that he had a Japanese fiancee and that they sailed to be married in Japan but she died on the way and he came back to Newport.

I have no idea of the timing other than my cousin, born in 1929 remembers dressing up in kimonos!!

Is there any way of verifying this?

Jude