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Linda Report 3 Apr 2013 11:54

I am having difficulties in finding my ancestors, annie Smith born 1902 born bedwellty but moved to bath, had two children harold and Nancy but unsure of the surname. I have been told they ran a lodging house. In bath and and cafe called the spinning wheel but that's it. Also ellen maria Smith again born in bedwellty in 1908 but moved to southsea as far as I know she had one child Cecil she had a very sad end to her l I feel roughly in the early seventies . Please someone if u can help that would b great. :-(


Andrew Report 3 Apr 2013 12:07

Hi Linda and welcome to the messae boards

For ref, this appears to be the family in 1911 census

1911 Wales Census
about Annie Smith
Name: Annie Smith
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Blaina, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil parish: Aberystruth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: 6 Globe Pit Row Blaina Mon
Registration district: Bedwellty
Registration District Number: 585
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 365
Piece: 31828
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Smith 44
Ellen Maria Smith 32
Arthur Smith 15
William Charles Smith 13
James Henry Smith 10
Annie Smith 7
Lily Maud Smith 5
Ellen Maria Smith 3
Alfred Smith 8/12
James Cunningham 52
Rhoda Cunningham 11



KathleenBell Report 3 Apr 2013 12:24

Was Annie actually registered as Ellen Annie? This is the only birth in 1902 in Bedwelty that I can see:-

Name: SMITH, Ellen Annie
Registration district: Bedwellty
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1902
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 81

This would make sense if the family above that Andy found is the right one as her mother would be Ellen so Annie was probably known by her middle name to avoid confusion.

Kath. x


brummiejan Report 3 Apr 2013 12:25

I can see what you mean Kath, but that would mean they called 2 children Ellen. Not sure about that?
Having said that, where is her birth!


Reggie Report 3 Apr 2013 12:28


Do you know about....................

You can look on there for marriages for the two women...........

.....and then for the births of their children


Reggie Report 3 Apr 2013 12:34

freebmd has only two births in BATH for HAROLD with MMN Smith...

....... neither had a sister registered as Nancy

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered


Reggie Report 3 Apr 2013 12:51

When and where was Cecil born?

Was his mother married?


Linda Report 3 Apr 2013 23:44

I have no real idea about Cecil year of birth but he was born in southsea. 1911 census has the correct info as my ggm was lily Smith but am unable find any further information on any other family members. Thanks go for all ur help. :-(


brummiejan Report 3 Apr 2013 23:57

No possible birth Portsmouth as far as I can see. 3 in Hampshire:

Name: Cecil A R J Betsworth
Mother: Smith
Birth: Dec 1936 - Alton, Hampshire

Name: Cecil G Cotton
Mother: Smith
Birth: Sep 1925 - Isle of Wight, Hampshire

Name: Cecil Page
Mother: Smith
Birth: Jun 1932 - Hartley W., Hampshire



Linda Report 13 Apr 2013 16:39

I've checked all of those but not sure they r the ones I'm looking for thanks all :-0 :-S