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Jayne

Jayne Report 3 Apr 2013 14:00

hi there my grandparents were david alexander coutts robertson and catherine simpson, my papa was in the palestine police, my mum davina was born in palestine and aunt jennifer. papa died aged 35 in holy land, hes buried at mount zion. nana mum n aunt then returned to scotland, this was during 2nd world war, im looking for anyone who may know of my grandparents as want my gr8 grandparents names etc and cant find any records, im new to this, my grandparents were scottish from perth, thankyou

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Apr 2013 14:20

Do you have any dates?

If your grandparents married in Scotland, the names of BOTH sets of parents will be on their marriage cert

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Apr 2013 14:24

11/05/1944
1/B/Sgt.
799
David Alexander Coutts Robertson
35

Natural Causes
Mount Zion

As he was born before 1911, you should be able to find him with his parents on the 1911 census.

To access it, you will need to purchase credits on Scotlands people website. £7.00 buys 30 credits

The same site should hold the marriage record............IF it was in Scotland

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Apr 2013 14:24

Hi Jayne
is this Davinia

David Alexander Coutts Robertson in entry for Davina Miller Robertson, "England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8)"
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Name: Davina Miller Robertson
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1933
Birthplace: Palestine
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Marriage Date:
Marriage Place:
Death Date:
Death Place:
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Father's Name: David Alexander Coutts Robertson
Mother's Name: Catherine Mclaren
Affiliate Publication Number: RG33_141

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Apr 2013 14:26

Interesting............was the mother married more than once?

Jayne

Jayne Report 3 Apr 2013 14:28

hi maddie that is mum but my nanas name was simpson but the rest all fits, im so new at this and dont know where to start ha

Jayne

Jayne Report 3 Apr 2013 14:30

hi reggie thats my papa alright, thankyou so much, i need to look up their parents names to move further

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Apr 2013 14:33

Here is his death.


UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947 about D A C Robertson
Name: D A C Robertson
Age: 35
Birth Date: abt 1909
Death Date: 11 May 1944
Cemetery: Jerusalem Protestant Cemetery
Burial Country: Israel
Father: Mr W Robertson
Mother: Mrs Robertson
Service Number: 799
Region or Memorial: Israel


or on cwgc.

ROBERTSON, D A C

Rank:
Sergeant
Service No:
799
Date of Death:
11/05/1944
Age:
35
Regiment/Service:
Palestine Police Force
Grave Reference
Plot F. Grave 16.
Cemetery
JERUSALEM PROTESTANT CEMETERY

Additional Information:

Son of Mr. and Mrs. W. Robertson, of Almondbank, Perthshire; husband of C. McL. Robertson, of Perth.


and his grave on http://www.findagrave.com


Sergeant D A Robertson

Birth: unknown
Death: May 11, 1944


Inscription:
Palestine Police Force

Note: 799

Burial:
Jerusalem Protestant Cemetery
Jerusalem
Yerushalayim (Jerusalem District), Israel
Plot: Plot F. Grave 16.

Created by: International Wargraves ...
Record added: Mar 15, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 25275533

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Apr 2013 14:34

The marriage cert really is your answer.................or the 1911 Scottish census

Neither record can be accessed without paying for it, I'm afraid.........

Jayne

Jayne Report 3 Apr 2013 14:34

no she was only ever with my papa and simpson was deffo her name, must be misprint as all other matches mums middle name and bday etc

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Apr 2013 14:36

For £7 you can buy 30 credits for Scotlandspeople. You will only need 6 of those credits to search for and view the marriage. You can use the remaining credits to find their births.

Scottish marriage certificates give the names of both parents including the mother's maiden surname.

Scottish birth certificates give the date and place of the parents marriage which makes finding you great grandparents easier.

Looks like McLaren was Catherine's middle name.

1932 ROBERTSON DAVID ALEXANDER SIMPSON CATHERINE MCLAR PERTH /PERTH 387/00 0272

Jayne

Jayne Report 3 Apr 2013 14:38

alivegal your a star thankyou and i guess i must have got my nanas maiden name wrong guys as this is deffo them xx

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Apr 2013 14:43

Jayne, I don't think you have got wrong the wrong maiden surname for your Nana. Looks like on her marriage her name was Catherine McLaren SIMPSON.

If you give us the details of the marriage certificate (which you can view online) when you get it then we may be able to help with census records if you require it. The 1911 Scottish census is only available to view on the pay to view Scotlandspeople website but transcripts of other Scottish census are available on other subscription sites.

Good Luck.

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Apr 2013 14:45

That is clearer now............The 'Mclaren' on Davina's birth record was the mother's second FORENAME

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Apr 2013 14:47

Your family returning to c/o Simpson, 2 Victoria Street, Perth. Catherine was 34 and Jennifer was 3.


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Davina Robertson
Name: Davina Robertson
Birth Date: abt 1934
Age: 10
Port of Departure: Port Said, Egypt
Arrival Date: 14 Aug 1944
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Port Said
Ship Name: Britannic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Britannic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard White Star
Official Number: 162316



and returning earlier to the same address in Perth. They embarked at Port Said. Catherine was a 'tourist.'


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Davina Robertson
Name: Davina Robertson
Birth Date: abt 1934
Age: 3
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 10 May 1937
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay
Ship Name: Strathmore
Search Ship Database: View the 'Strathmore' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 164521

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Apr 2013 14:51

A possible birth for your papa.

1909 ROBERTSON DAVID ALEXANDER M SCONE (PERTH) /PERTH 394/0A 0011

Jayne

Jayne Report 3 Apr 2013 15:06

guys your are all so good thanks so much xxxx

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 3 Apr 2013 15:22


The War Graves Photographic site have photographed his headstone, you can obtain copiess etc, but the do ask for a donation, see link for details of costs etc

http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=2616029


Robertson, D A C

Cemetery: Jerusalem Protestant Cemetery

Country: Israel

Area:

Rank: Sergeant

Official Number: 799

Unit: Palestine Police Force

Force: Misc.

Nationality: British

Details:
11/05/44 Aged 35 Plot F. Grave 16. Son of Mr. and Mrs. W. Robertson, of Almondbank, Perthshire; husband of C. McL. Robertson, of Perth.



George

Jayne

Jayne Report 3 Apr 2013 15:34

thankyou george to you have all been great xx

Aileen

Aileen Report 3 Apr 2013 19:57

Marriage cert

David Alexander Coutts Robertson (Police Constable) age 23 Low's Work's Cottages Tibbermore son of William (Joiner) and Helen Robertson ms Covey married Catherine McLaren Simpson ( Motor Engineers Clerk) aged 22 2 Victoria Street Perth daughter of David (Baker) and Annie Simpson ms Miller on 22nd November at York House 15 York Place Perth.
Marriage was witnessed by Harry Robertson and Christina B Simpson.

1911 census

52 Almondbank

William Robertson age 43 Joiner born Errol
Helen " 30 " Redgorton
James " 12 " "
Frances 6 " "
William 4 "
David 2 Scone
Harry 2 months Methven

Census states that Helen has been married for 6 years and has 3 children....I assume that William had been married before as there are 5 Robertson children.

William Robertson and family 1901 census

William Robertson
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Robertson
Gender: Male
Where born: Errol, Perthshire

Registration district: Redgorton
Civil parish: Redgorton
County: Perthshire
Address: Pitcairngreen
Occupation: Joiner

Household Members:
Name Age
William Robertson 33
Mary Robertson 32
Margaret Jane Robertson 8
Kate Robertson 6
Forrest Frue Robertson 2