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Missing after 1901 Census.

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Bob

Bob Report 6 Apr 2013 14:14

Thanks, Dea. (I'm here this time!!)

Bob

Dea

Dea Report 6 Apr 2013 13:23

SO sorry to have dashed your hopes about the workhouse one Bob - It DID look very promising but I eventually managed to track him down on the census and I am afraid it does not appear to be him :-(

I will keep looking though.

Best of luck,

Dea x

Bob

Bob Report 6 Apr 2013 13:12

Hello to all of you,

Many thanks for your wonderful responses. It seems my reply is somewhat late and I do apologize. However, have mercy on me as I'm in Melbourne, Aust and, of course , the time difference is to blame.

Yes, Sylvia, I do know what happened to Mary Alice after she left Edward T (I have to include the T, as there are lots of other Edward Mammatts and I want to avoid any possible confusion). She went on to re-marry and I have all her details up to and including her death. However, I can find no evidence of a divorce!

Fredk, thanks for extracting those records - I've been through those sources many times but with no luck.

Dea, thank you for the Southern Cemetery info' which I did, in fact, already have. I had the very moving experience of visiting the grave during a visit to the UK last September. No help with Edward T though.

Dea & Catherine, regarding the Workhouse information (thank you) - you got me quite excited for a moment. The surname Mammatt has been subject to all sorts of spellings over the years and we all know what confusion THAT can cause! However, Dea, you then dashed my hopes and we're back to square one.

Cynthia, I've already responded to you advisory post.

Again, thank you all for trying - I'll keep plugging away. Maybe the answer lies in some record I know nothing about and which I can't access from afar. The computer can only do so much!

'Bye everybody.

Bob

Dea

Dea Report 6 Apr 2013 12:23

False alarm on that one in the Workhouse I am afraid.

I managed to find the census image for the workhouse and he is a Grocer's assistand born in Fulbeck ?, Lincolnshire c 1852. (aged 59).

He is a widower and name is either Minnett or Minnete !

Drattt.....................

Dea x

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 6 Apr 2013 12:05

It was Bob's first post. Friendly message sent on how to find replies. :-)

Dea

Dea Report 5 Apr 2013 10:09

A bit more info on Catherine's find above:

Manchester Workhouse Registers 1800-1911
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Forename:Thomas
Surname:Meimett
Age:
Date of Birth Year:
From Whence Admitted:

Locality of Record:Manchester New Bridge Street Workhouse
Date of Admission Day:04
Date of Admission Month:May
Date of Admission Year:1906
Place:Manchester
County:Lancashire

Title of Records:Creed Register
Film:M4 - 11 - 29
Date Range:1911 - 1912

Number:
Start Year:1911
End Year:1912

Record source:Manchester Workhouse Registers 1800-1911 - Transcript

Data provider:Manchester Archives


He was admitted from No 2 district (not sure where that was?) and discharged on 23rd August 1911.

Year of birth was given as 1852 so it could be a possible?

Dea x

Alemap

Alemap Report 5 Apr 2013 10:06

Forename:Thomas
Surname:Meimett
Age:
Date of Birth Year:
From Whence Admitted:
Locality of Record:Manchester New Bridge Street Workhouse
Date of Admission Day:04
Date of Admission Month:May
Date of Admission Year:1906
Place:Manchester
County:Lancashire
Title of Records:Creed Register
Film:M4 - 11 - 29
Date Range:1911 - 1912
Number:Start Year:1911
End Year:1912
Record source:Manchester Workhouse Registers 1800-1911 - Transcript
Data provider:Manchester Archives

Gives birth year as 1852
Gives discharge or death 23 Aug 1911

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Apr 2013 09:05

If his father died in 1905, then I wonder if this is him?

Thomas Meimett, "England, Manchester, Miscellaneous Records, 1700-1916"

Nom: Thomas Meimett
Type d'événement: Workhouse admission
Date de l'événement: 1906
Gamme de l'année d'événement: 1911 - 1912
Lieu de l'événement: Lancashire, England
Âge:
Année de naissance (estimée):
Numéro de dossier numérique: 004509741

Dea

Dea Report 5 Apr 2013 08:03

Joseph and Ann are buried in the same grave in Southern Cemetery along with this gentleman:

Deaths Dec 1903
Mammatt George Richard 45 Stockport 8a 73

Edward is not with them.

Dea x

EDIT - I have added the burial dates:


Southern Cemetery IChurch of England 2394 1 Ann Mammott 9/1/1901
Southern Cemetery IChurch of England 2394 2 George Richard Mammatt 4/11/1903
Southern Cemetery IChurch of England 2394 3 Joseph Mammatt 30/5/1905

Dea x

Fredk

Fredk Report 5 Apr 2013 07:32

For reference
That is extent of my GR subscription


Marriage Record
Name Mary Alice Sankey
Year of Marriage 1881
Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Salford
Registration County Lancashire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 8D
Volume Page 32

Marriage Record
Name Edward Thomas Mammatt
Year of Marriage 1881
Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Salford
Registration County Lancashire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 8D
Volume Page 32

Fredk

Fredk Report 5 Apr 2013 06:50

Nothing in Free BMD Deaths for Edward

Fredk

Fredk Report 5 Apr 2013 06:43

I cannot find him in the 1911 Census.
Did he die also before the 1911 census or as SylviaInCanada said emmigrated

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2013 06:38

Fredk




Thank you


It was an error ....... it was the 1901 Census that I looked at, and then mis-typed.

I have now corrected it

Fredk

Fredk Report 5 Apr 2013 06:35

SylviaInCanada

If that is the1911 census he is the wrong age and the poster said Joseph died in 1905

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2013 05:20

could he have emigrated??

Have you found out what happened to Mary Alice after she left him?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Apr 2013 05:09

NOTE:-

on 1901 ancestry as Mammath <<<<<<<<<<< corrected

Name Age
Joseph Mammath 72 Retired Hall Keeper
Edward T Mammath 46 Window Cleaner

Bob

Bob Report 5 Apr 2013 04:55

Edward Thomas Mammatt was born in Manchester in 1854 to Joseph and Ann Mammatt.He married Mary Alice Sankey in Manchester in 1881 and they had no children. She left him in the late 1890s, and Edward T was with his father, Joseph, in Manchester at the time of the 1901 Census. Joseph subsequently died in 1905, but there's no indication that Edward T. was present.
I can find no trace of Edward Thomas Mammatt after the 1901 Census and would appreciate any help in trying to find out what happened to him.