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1891 LOOK UP ONLY PLEASE -no other census's needed

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Linda

Linda Report 12 Apr 2013 13:39

Wow..that looks good too....and would place him in Devon where he met Catherine!....I guess we will never know for sure... thankyou so much all of you, for taking the time to look for me... I really am grateful :-D

vera2010

vera2010 Report 12 Apr 2013 12:02

???

All three 14 year olds employed as farm servants. George's place of birth
not known so possibly not a local lad.

1891 England Census
about George Hall Name: George Hall
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: N

Civil parish: Wembury
Ecclesiastical parish: Wembury
Town: Knighton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration district: Yealmpton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1720
Folio: 65
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
William D Spervell 75
William Spervell 45
Jane Spervell 39
William Spervell 14
Thomas Spervell 9
Bessie Tucker 17
Sidney Walke 14
Henry Walters 14
George Hall 14

Vera






vera2010

vera2010 Report 12 Apr 2013 11:22

This may be Thomas H. He was a shoe blacker. EDIT just re-read thread. See this has already been posted. One of many boys who graduated from the Ragged Schools and were employed on the streets of London polishing shoes. All very organised and they had their own uniforms etc. Maybe George was in one of the Ragged Schools at the time. That Pawnbroker one still looks good. I think the age is a mistranscribe on Ancestry. Looks more like aged 16 to me.

1891 England Census
about Thomas Hall Name: Thomas Hall
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 25 York Road, Islington

Occupation: Shoeblacker

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 153
Folio: 116
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
James Jarvis 45 School Master
Alice Jarvis 43 Matron
Austin Jarvis 9
Jerrie Saunders 16
Thomas Hall 18
Charles Collinson 17
John Joseph Saunders 20
Walter Edward Steven 19
Edward William 19
George Blevens 19
Frederick Bonnie 18
William Thomas 17
Charles Henley 30
Samuel Morris 17
Robert Roberts 29
Frans Smith 18
Arthur Dyer 19

Vera


Linda

Linda Report 12 Apr 2013 10:31

Thats interesting Christiana....maybe one of her son's was a twin and died at birth? (twins run in the family)

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 12 Apr 2013 10:25

On the 1911 census (can only find it on find my past) is says 5 children born - 2 died

Linda

Linda Report 12 Apr 2013 10:04

Thankyou so much Vera (good thinking on the Teresa G Hall age).. in the 1911 census it says-

George Hall - 34 yrs +old- b- 1877 St Pancras- occupation Drill Instructor Army Pensioner.
Catherine Hall 33yrs- b-Ilfracombe, Devon
Son,- Cecil G Hall b-9 yrs-1901- CLAPTON HACKNEY
son. Reginald Hall - 8yrs- b-1903 -St Pancras
son, Vincent Hall-2yrs-1909 St Pancras
Visitor, Elizabeth Harris (relative) 59yrs old, b-1852, Ilfracombe Devon ( Catherine's Aunt)
( Teresa G Hall is not on this Census, but as I didnt find it myself, it may have just been forgotton to be wrote down))
Adress; 22 Maitland Park London: District St Pancras
.
(In 1901 they were living in Hackney)

Did I mention that on the 1899 marriage cert, it gives George's address as 6 Kemble Rd, South Tottenham?.. if thats any help, he had an older brother Thomas Henry Hall, that may have been living in that area. x Any help would be so greatfully accepted...I'v ran out of thoughts as my searches are limited!....

Going by the Theresa Gertrude Hall b 1900...There is a Death, showing up on FBMD. for Theresa Gertrude Hall for March-1902 in Hampstead ..I wonder if thats her!

vera2010

vera2010 Report 12 Apr 2013 09:34



Linda I had this on your other thread.

I can't for the life of me find them in 1911. I wanted to check Teresa G's age as I wonder if that 1901 census giving dob as 1894 is correct. . Catherine would have been very young in that case. Wonder if that 7 is a fancy 1

Can you give some more info on the 1911 you have found ie names of other children. Just to try to pinpoint where George may have been in 1901 EDIT 1891.

Here is a possible birth for Teresa G. Barnstaple is the reg district for Ilfracombe and parents married in 1899.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Theresa Gertrude Hall Name: Theresa Gertrude Hall
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1900
Registration district: Barnstaple
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 410 (click to see others on page)

Vera




Linda

Linda Report 11 Apr 2013 21:18

Thankyou Christina :-D

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 11 Apr 2013 21:03

Here's the rest of the Wilson family:

1891 England Census
about Geo Hall
Name: Geo Hall
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Assistant

Where born: Islington, London, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Town: Stratford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Piece: 1310
Folio: 115
Page Number: 96
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Jos Willson - head -- 44 - Pawnbroker's Manager - Deptford, Kent
Fanny Willson - wife - 48 - Wilts.
Alie M Willson - dau - 22 - Turnham Green (Alice on image)
Emert W Willson - son - 20 - Dartford (Ernest on image)
Minna E Willson - dau - 16 - Dartford
Emel L Willson - dau - 15 - Dartford (Emily on image)
Bertie Willson - son - 13 - Dartford
Geo Hall - asst - 10 - Pawnbroker's Asst. - Islington (16 on image)
Geo M Bradgama - asst. 15



HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 11 Apr 2013 19:42

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1323041

related thread

Jude

Linda

Linda Report 11 Apr 2013 19:31

Martyn... I never gave that a thought...I think I would like to settle for Christiana's "rank outsider" ( see 4 posts above)...otherwise I'll be searching for months and my husband will divorce me lol.... However, if any one of you have access to Ancestry, I would love to know who the rest of the Wilson Family householders were, and, there actual residence if possible?

martynsue

martynsue Report 11 Apr 2013 18:13

linda could he have been in a hospital or the like,i do not know how to check the census for hospital patient's,
on family search there are alot of george hall's who are in institution's,it would be a trek to look through them as there are 5,000+ entries.

Linda

Linda Report 11 Apr 2013 15:15

ps..Christina...are there any other wilson's in the family with them, or is it just William and George?

Linda

Linda Report 11 Apr 2013 10:14

Hi Christina, he got married in Barnstaple, Devon in 1899....to Catherine Yeo..they had a child 5 years before the marriage in 1894, which I suppose could place him in that area around 1893?...although his older brother is a boarder in Islington in 1891...George turns back up in Hackney with his wife and children in 1901, and 1911 in Maitland Park St Pancras, London...Hid Mother was living as a housekeeper for her brother in law in Hackney 1891, so she was helping him bring up his children...I just cant see her putting her only child left in a home ( she lost 3 of her other children..early deaths)......The assistant pawn broker is interesting

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 10 Apr 2013 21:03

Here's a rank outsider:

Geo. Hall living in Stratford, West Ham, born 1881 (the actual image is 16 not 10)
born Islington (St.Pancras is in the borough of Islington)

He's living with a William Wilson, who is a pawnbroker. George is an assistant pawnbroker.

Where did George get married?

Linda

Linda Report 10 Apr 2013 15:49

:-(

Linda

Linda Report 10 Apr 2013 09:04

Still cant find George though, why wouldnt he be with his Mum? @ ChristineS(i dont think its the George H Hall in witley) as he doesnt have a middle name...where else could he be at 14 yrs old?.. are there any more George Hall b 1877 around the city?..maybe he is working around there.

Linda

Linda Report 6 Apr 2013 15:39

Ahhh this is all very interesting and should keep me busy...thankyou so much everyone xx :-D

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 6 Apr 2013 15:14

There's an Alice Hall b.1875 living in Stoke Newington, Hackney as a domestic servant. She's down as being born in Kentish Town, which is right next door to St.Pancras.

martynsue

martynsue Report 6 Apr 2013 15:13

linda, william is her brother in law,did she have a sister