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James Heyes 1853 Leigh, Lancs

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mgnv

mgnv Report 7 Apr 2013 08:29

Here's where the other witness came from:
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1870
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
OWEN John VALENTINE Ellen Leigh Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROL/20/36

mgnv

mgnv Report 6 Apr 2013 18:23

I presume this is the 1881 census referred to

1881 England Census
Civil parish: Tyldesley cum Shakerley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Engine House
Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 3811 Folio: 130 Page Number: 9

James Heyes 28 Tyldesley, Lancashire, England Head M Cotton Operative
Mary A. Heyes 29 Tyldesley, Lancashire, England Wife M Cotton Operative
Eliz. Heyes 2 Tyldesley, Lancashire, England Daughter

However, I don't see the Mary Ann Kniverton bit - this is clearly Mary Ann Valentine.

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1873 HAYES John Atherton Wigan & Leigh VALENTINE ATH/32/31
1878 HAYES Elizabeth Atherton Wigan & Leigh VALENTINE ATH/40/321

Lancashire Death indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
1873 HAYES John 0 Atherton Wigan & Leigh ATH/23/88
1881 HAYES Elizabeth 2 Atherton Wigan & Leigh ATH/30/241

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
VALENTINE Mary Ann HAYES James Tyldesley St. George Wigan & Leigh C6L/3/153

Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 16 Nov 1872 St George, Tyldesley, Lancs.
James Hayes - 19 Spinner Bachelor of Tyldesley
Mary Ann Valentine - 20 Reeler Spinster of Tyldesley
Bride's Father: Peter Valentine, Engine Tenter
Witness: John Owen; Mary Jane Kerfoot
Married by Banns by: George Richards
Register: Marriages 1868 - 1882, Page 77, Entry 153
Source: LDS Film 1885667

Marriage: 9 Dec 1871 St George, Tyldesley, Lancs.
William Valentine - 23 Collier Bachelor of Tyldesley
Margaret Woods - 25 Spinster of Tyldesley
Groom's Father: Peter Valentine, Engine Tenter
Bride's Father: Robert Woods, Spinner
Witness: Peter Woods; Jane Makin
Married by Certificate by: George Richards
Register: Marriages 1868 - 1882, Page 61, Entry 122
Source: LDS Film 1885667

Marriage: 27 Sep 1884 St George, Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
Samuel Litherland - (X), 26 Collier Bachelor of 41 Darlington St.
Caroline Valentine - (X), 27 Spinster of 16 James St.
Groom's Father: William Litherland, Collier
Bride's Father: Peter Valentine, Engineer
Witness: Edward Bowker; Jane Eckersley, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Lund Vicar
Register: Marriages 1882 - 1893, Page 35, Entry 70
Source: LDS Film 1885667

Looking at James & Mary Ann's witnesses, this might be relevant

Marriage: 15 May 1853 St George, Tyldesley, Lancashire, England
Lee Kerfoot - (X), 23 Piecer Bachelor of Tray Lane
Mary Heyes - (X), 19 Piecer Spinster of Bridge Street
Groom's Father: John Kerfoot, Deceased
Bride's Father: Thomas Heyes, Deceased
Witness: Samuel Ainsworth; Elizabeth Wilcock, (X)
Married by Certificate by: George Richards
Register: Marriages 1852 - 1868, Page 27, Entry 54
Source: LDS Film 1885667

Mark

Mark Report 6 Apr 2013 17:10

No worries - Thank you for your help

Vera

Vera Report 6 Apr 2013 17:07

Sorry not having any luck finding any of them.

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 6 Apr 2013 15:54

Will look

Regards Vera

Mark

Mark Report 6 Apr 2013 15:53

Thank you Vera - Maybe if the family can be found in 1911 it will say number of children born to couple..

Vera

Vera Report 6 Apr 2013 15:51

Found this one unfortunately cannot say for certain that she is your Elizabeth....but thought I would show you.

Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
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Hayes Elizabeth 2 Leigh



Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 6 Apr 2013 15:48

Hi, Not having much luck with Elizabeth.
Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 6 Apr 2013 15:35

Still looking for Elizabeth....had a look for deaths...but not sure

Regards Vera

Mark

Mark Report 6 Apr 2013 15:32

Thank you Vera....... So Elizabeth b.1879 has left home or ...

Vera

Vera Report 6 Apr 2013 15:30

1891
Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
HAYES, James Head Married M 38 1853 Cotton Spinner
Tyldesley, Lancashire VIEW
HAYES, Mary A Wife Married F 39 1852 Cotton Winder
Tyldesley, Lancashire VIEW
Piece: 3256
Folio: 71
Page: 29
Registration District: Prestwich
Civil Parish: Bradford
Municipal Borough: Manchester
Address: 15, Herbert Street, Bradford, Kirkmanshulme, Manchester
County: Lancashire



Regards Vera

Mark

Mark Report 6 Apr 2013 15:03

James Heyes on the 1881 census is a Cotton Operative. He is married to Mary Ann Kniverton and has a daughter Elizabeth 1879. I am unable to locate the family in the following census (1891)..

Thanks