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William Cockerill - 1851 and 1841 census

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Peter

Peter Report 6 Apr 2013 23:58

Hi there,

I have two William Cockerill being buried in Fylingdales, North Yorkshire in 1855 (aged 75) and 1859 (aged 70).

I am trying to work out which one probably relates to me ... can you help by finding them in the census? I have no idea where they where born and hope to find out through here.

Thanks,

Peter

patchem

patchem Report 7 Apr 2013 00:03

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1851 England Census
William Cooprell [William Cockrill (later Cockerill)]
Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Cooprell
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Fylingdales, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Fylingdales County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Thorpe
Occupation: Ag Lab
Registration district: Whitby Sub-registration district: Egton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Household schedule number: 98 Piece: 2374 Folio: 168 Page Number: 20
William Cooprell 61
Sarah Cooprell 60
Frances Cooprell 31 Ag Lab
John Cooprell 20 Cordwainer
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2374; Folio: 168; Page: 20; GSU roll: 87660-87662.

patchem

patchem Report 7 Apr 2013 00:06

1841 England Census
William Cockerill Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Fylingdales Hundred: Whitby Strand
County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Whitby Sub-registration district: Whitby
Piece: 1265 Book: 1 Folio: 52 Page Number: 1
William Cockerill 51 farmer, living at Thorpe brow
Sarah Cockerill 49
Jane Cockerill 23
William Cockerill 20
Elizabeth Cockerill 19
Richard Cockerill 18
John Cockerill 10
Sarah Cockerill 1 Week
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1265; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Fylingdales; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 31; Folio: 52; Page: 1; Line: 17; GSU roll: 464236.

Peter

Peter Report 7 Apr 2013 00:10

Thank you Patchem ... very kind. Is the 'other' William in the same village also?

patchem

patchem Report 7 Apr 2013 00:10

1841 England Census
William Cockerill
Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Fylingdales Hundred: Whitby Strand
County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Street Address: haggett Hill ??
Registration district: Whitby Sub-registration district: Whitby
Piece: 1265 Book: 1 Folio: 55 Page Number: 6
Thomas Jackson 36
Jane Jackson 29
John Baker 40
Francis Nelton 22
Betty Jackson 15
Elizabeth Stubbs 34
Mary Stubbs 1
William Cockerill 65
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1265; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Fylingdales; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 31; Folio: 55; Page: 6; Line: 1; GSU roll: 464236.

patchem

patchem Report 7 Apr 2013 00:16

1851 England Census
William Cockrill Age: 71 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1780
Relation: Head Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Fylingdales, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Stainton Dale Country: England
Occupation: alum work labourer
Condition as to marriage: widower
Registration district: Scarborough Sub-registration district: Filey
ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 57 Piece: 2368 Folio: 613 Page Number: 15
William Cockrill 71
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2368; Folio: 613; Page: 15; GSU roll: 87646-87649.

In the same household are
Mary Budele granddau mar 26 mariner's wife Fylingdales
Elizabeth Ann Budele 2 Stainton Dale
Philip N 9 months Stainton dale

Peter

Peter Report 7 Apr 2013 00:16

Thank you Patchem - in 1841 does it seems like William Cockerill is with relatives? What is his occupation?

Thanks

Peter

Peter Report 7 Apr 2013 00:19

I am inclined to think the one born 1780 is my ancestor - thank you Patchem.

Peter

Peter Report 7 Apr 2013 00:20

Also - can we find a marriage for Mary born c. 1825 in Fylingdales?! This would help extend the family and help confirm a connection.

Thanks,

Peter

patchem

patchem Report 7 Apr 2013 00:22

Just for spelling;
Births Sep 1850
Beadle Philip Newton Scarbro 24 568

Peter

Peter Report 7 Apr 2013 00:22

Thank you!

I was a little lost there for a minute!

Peter

Peter Report 7 Apr 2013 00:26

Name: Philip Newton Bedell
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 04 Aug 1850
Christening Place: FYLINGDALES,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Philip Bedell
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10535-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919060
Reference ID:
Citing this Record

patchem

patchem Report 7 Apr 2013 00:28

1861 England Census
Mary Beadle
Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife Gender: Female
Where born: Ston Brow, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Fylingdales Town: Robin Hoods Bay
County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Street Address: High Street
Occupation: seaman's wife
Registration district: Whitby
Sub-registration district: Whitby
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 42 Piece: 3649 Folio: 94 Page Number: 7
Mary Beadle 34
Phillips Beadle 11 son
Mary L Beadle 8 dau
William C Beadle 5 son
William Beadle 5 neph
Mariah Mitchel 40
Phillip Elliott 50
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 3649; Folio: 94; Page: 7; GSU roll: 543166.

Peter

Peter Report 7 Apr 2013 00:29

Patchem - I am having difficulty finding a marriage for Mary to asertain her maiden name.

Can you help?

Peter

Peter Report 7 Apr 2013 00:36

Thank you for the 1861.

I don't really want to work forward just yet as it is possible I don't connect to this familu just yet.

My ancestor Ann Wood (nee Cockerill) died in East Barnby, North Yorkshire in 1849 aged 37 - so born c. 1813. She was living in Danby in the late 1830s and then moved to Hinderwell where her husband was the local inkeeper.

I have looked for a baptism and found one in 1813 in Fylingdales, North Yorkshire to a William Cockerill and Ann.

There is a sister Margaret baptised in 1815.

So trying to link Mary Bedale to Margaret or another sibling?

Cheers,

Peter

patchem

patchem Report 7 Apr 2013 00:38

Marriages Mar 1846
Barker Elizabeth Thirsk 24 569
xxxxBeedall Philip Whitby 24 569
BOWMAN Mary Thirsk 24 569
xxxxCOCKERIL Mary Whitby 24 569
xxxxCOCKRIL Mary Whitby 24 569
Dibb John Whitby 24 569
Easby John Faint Thirsk 24 569
Ebblewhite George Whitby 24 569
Fearsby Joseph Thirsk 24 569
Leng Ann Whitby 24 569
Pearson Eliza Whitby 24 569
Robinson Elizabeth Thursk 24 569
Robinson Elizabeth Thirsk 24 569
Sleightholm William Whitby 24 569
Smiddy Betsey Whitby 24 569
Smith Robert Thirsk 24 569

The spelling does vary a lot.

Birth certificates will give Mother's maiden name.

Peter

Peter Report 7 Apr 2013 00:48

Thank you - can't see a baptism just yet ...

Thank you though!

Vicci

Vicci Report 7 Apr 2013 05:45

1841
note address : Stoupe Brow, Fylingdales - if you look at the birth place of Mary Beadle in the 1861 census "Where born: Ston Brow, Yorkshire, England", looks like it the same place.

COCKERILL, William M 51 1790 Yorkshire
COCKERILL, Sarah F 49 1792 Yorkshire
COCKERILL, Jane F 23 1818 Yorkshire
COCKERILL, William M 20 1821 Yorkshire
COCKERILL, Elizabeth F 19 1822 Yorkshire
COCKERILL, Richard M 18 1823 Yorkshire
COCKERILL, John M 10 1831 Yorkshire
COCKERILL, Sarah F 0 (1 weeks) 1841 Yorkshire

Piece: 1265

Book/Folio: 1/52

Page: 1

Registration District: Whitby

Civil Parish: Fylingdales

Municipal Borough:

Address: Stoupe Brow, Fylingdales

County: Yorkshire

Vicci

Vicci Report 7 Apr 2013 06:00

"STOW BROW, a hamlet in the township and parish of Fylingdales, North Riding county York, 5 miles S.E. of Whitby."

"STOUPE, (or Stowborough), a hamlet in the parish of Fylingdales, liberty of Whitby Strand, North Riding county York, 9 miles N.W. of Scarborough, and 4 S.E. of Whitby. It is situated near the coast, on a cliff 893 feet in height. There are extensive alum works in the vicinity."

Vicci

Vicci Report 7 Apr 2013 06:16

1851 the william and elizabeth from the 1841 census

COCKRILL, William Head Married M 30 1821 Labourer At Alum Work
Fylingdales, Yorkshire VIEW
COCKRILL, Elizabeth Wife Married F 29 1822 Labourers Wife
Fylingdales, Yorkshire VIEW
COCKRILL, Sarah Ann Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Fylingdales, Yorkshire VIEW
COCKRILL, William Son M 7 1844 Scholar
Staintondale, Yorkshire VIEW
COCKRILL, Mary Jane Daur F 5 1846 Scholar
Staintondale, Yorkshire VIEW
COCKRILL, Ingram Son M 3 1848 At Home
Staintondale, Yorkshire VIEW
COCKRILL, Hannah Briget Daur F
Fylingdales, Yorkshire VIEW

Piece: 2374

Folio: 205

Page: 16

Registration District: Whitby

Civil Parish: Fylingdales

Municipal Borough:

Address: Stow Brow, Fylingdales

County: Yorkshire (North riding)