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Mary Crompton 1898 England to California

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Mark

Mark Report 7 Apr 2013 13:11

I have found the following for my ancestor who does not appear to of married. Any help. Unsure yet why she is here.

Name: Mary Crompton
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1898
Age at Death: 60
Death Date: 8 Nov 1958
Burial Place: Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara County, California, USA

URL:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-... Does not work

Born Leigh, Lancashire

Mark

Mark Report 7 Apr 2013 13:20

Taken from Ancestry Record

Name: Mary Crompton
[Mary Barford]
Father: Barford
Birth: 22 Mar 1898 - Other Country
Death: 8 Nov 1958 - Santa Barbara

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 13:24

Hi Mark - who were Mary's parents? Might help us when looking at possible records.

Is that definitely "your" Mary's birthdate? (There was a Mary Crompton in USA of similar age, who was British, but she was married).

I don't want to start churning out loads of records if it's possible to narrow it down ....

Mark

Mark Report 7 Apr 2013 13:28

Thomas Barford 1869 and Margaret A Bates 1873 where the parents of Margaret 1898

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 13:34

You said in your opening post that she didn't appear to have married but now her name is Barford.

Could you clarify, was she born Mary Barford and you think she might have married a Crompton?

As I asked earlier, is that definitely the right birthdate for your Mary?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 13:36

So that would be this marriage?

Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930

Name: Mary Barford, a ring spinner of 82 Weston Street
Birth Year: abt 1899
Age: 23
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1922
Parish: Atherton, St John the Baptist
Parish as it Appears: Atherton
Father's Name: Thomas Barford - Spinner
Spouse's Name: Thomas Crompton (25) - a painter
Spouse's Father's Name: James Thomas Crompton - haulier
Reference Number: L177/1/3/6

Neither had been married before.

Witnesses: William Percy Crompton and Alice Bates Barford

Mark

Mark Report 7 Apr 2013 13:36

I am not 100% certain of birth date and the 2 names showed up on this site

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

Mark

Mark Report 7 Apr 2013 13:39

Mary's sister Alice Bates married William P Crompton

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 13:40

Looks like the two sisters may have married brothers - see above.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 13:45

Not sure yet if this is emigration or returning from a trip home:

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Mary Crompton
Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1950
Birth Date: abt 1898
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English)
Place of Origin: Britain
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Britannic

Travelling with Thomas (53) a painter and Dorothy M (22). They were all headed to 727 Spring Street, Santa Barbara, CA

(So envious, Santa Barbara is one of my favourite places)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 13:51

Another trip:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Mary Crompton
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1898
Age: 60
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 8 Jun 1958
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Scythia
Shipping Line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 8148/01

Travelling with Thomas born 06 Jun 1896. They were residents of USA and were going to 36 Willow Crescent, St Albans, Herts. They intended to stay 5 months.

(There was also a 1953 trip to the same address)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 13:59

I'm puzzled as to why you thought she'd never married when, apart from the detail I posted above, the marriage is on FreeBMD:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1922
Barford Mary Crompton Leigh 8c 269
CROMPTON Thomas Barford Leigh 8c 269

You can also find Dorothy's birth on there and that of a possible sister.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 14:06

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)

Name: Mary Crompton
Gender: F (Female)
Residence Year: 1956
Street Address: 434 Paseo del Descanso
Residence Place: Santa Barbara, California
Spouse: Thos Crompton
Publication Title: Polk's Santa Barbara (Santa Barbara County, Calif.) City Directory

Thomas was a painter for Don C Becker & Sons

No mention of Dorothy

Mark

Mark Report 7 Apr 2013 14:09

Thank you for your help

Looked on freebmd and found Dorothy 1928 Bolton

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 14:09

Just to confirm the birthdate (from LancsOPC)

Baptism: 4 May 1898 St John the Baptist, Atherton, Lancashire, England
Mary Barford - Daughter of Thomas Barford & Margaret Alice
Born: 22 Mar 1898
Abode: 133 Bolton Road
Occupation: Self-act Minder
Baptised by: W. Nuttall, Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1899, Page 263, Entry 2103
Source: LDS Film 1885669

So the death record you found is your Mary. I can open the FindaGrave link but there's no info on it, other than birth and death dates.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 14:11

This looks like her husband's death:

California, Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Thomas Crompton
Social Security #: 555424540
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 Jun 1896
Death Date: 23 Jan 1968
Death Place: Los Angeles

from FindaGrave:

Burial: Santa Barbara Cemetery, Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara County, California, USA
Plot: Vista Del Mar-Block B-Grave 068

(Have checked and Mary is in the same grave)

Mark

Mark Report 7 Apr 2013 14:49

Marjorie j Crompton 1922-2007 died in Santa Ana, California, USA

married Unknown Veronski

Had a son in 1953 who passed away in 2009.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 15:27

Wonder if Marjorie J is Marjorie Joan?

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta)

Name: M Joan Veronski
Gender: F (Female)
Residence Year: 1960
Residence Place: Santa Barbara, California
Spouse: Louis Veronski - building contractor
Publication Title: Polk's Santa Barbara (Santa Barbara County, Calif.) City Directory
...........................................................................................................

Social Security Death Index

Name: Marjorie J. Veronski
Last Residence: 953 (U.S. Consulate)
Born: 2 Aug 1922
Died: 30 Dec 2007
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 15:32

A possible arrival:

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Marjorie Crompton
Arrival Date: 2 Nov 1947
Birth Date: abt 1923
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English)
Place of Origin: Great Britain
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Airline: American Overseas Airlines

Typing is quite blurred, looks like she was going to 17 Agage Street, Depew, NY

Mark

Mark Report 7 Apr 2013 16:02

MarieCeleste

Just to confirm YES Marjorie Joan Veronski nee Crompton