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Hi Patrick Fippard was my Grandad, im trying to search his side of the tree with great difficulty. He was born 1915 Fulham London His mothers maiden name was Manning (we believe she was Irish) also her first name may have been Nora(with or without a h). I cant find any marriage records for Manning/Fippard. Also i believe my Great Grandad was called Benjamin but unsure Any help would be greatfully received. We also beleive that my Grandad had a sister not sure if she died before his birth or not???? Thankyou

This looks like your grandad's birth:-

Name: FIPPARD, Patrick C H (think his first middle initial should be G)
Registration district: Fulham
County: London
Year of registration: 1915
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Manning
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 266

This could be your grandad's sister's birth (perhaps she was named after her mother):-

Name: FIPPARD, Nora I
Registration district: Portsmouth
County: Hampshire
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Manning
Volume no: 2B
Page no: 776

Kath. x

Hi Kim, welcome to the boards.

Do you know of any other siblings?

Could this be your great grandparents in the 1911 census:-

1911 census transcription details for: 49 High St Portsmouth

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN5614 RG78PN254 RD90 SD4 ED22 SN25
Reg. District: Portsmouth
Sub District: Portsmouth and Mid Southsea
Parish: Portsmouth
Enum. District: 22

Address: 49 High St Portsmouth
County: Hampshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

FIPPARD, Benjamin Head Married M 39 1872 Manage Of Branch Of Ruth Coy Rubber St George London<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
FIPPARD, Elizabeth Wife Married
10 years F 40 1871 St George London<<<<<<<<<<<<<
GODDARD, Elizabeth Visitor Single F 62 1849 Housekeeper Reading Berkchin

Kath. x

Same couple in 1901 census:-

1901 census transcription details for: 8, Hyde Park Terrace West, Paddington

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 14
Folio: 12
Page: 15
Reg. District: Paddington
Sub District: St John Paddington
Parish: Paddington
Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 8, Hyde Park Terrace West, Paddington
County: London

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

PERKINS, Thomas Head Married M 59 1842 Engineer (Marine)
Bewdley, Worcestershire
FIPPARD, Benjamin Servant Married M 28 1873 Servant
St Georges East, London<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
FIPPARD, Lizzie Servant Married F 30 1871 Cook Domestic
St Georges East, London<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

After looking at marriages I don't think the couple in the two census records I posted earlier are the right ones as this seems to be their marriage and the bride's maiden name is not Manning and I can't find a previous marriage for her):-


Name: FIPPARD, Benjamin
Registration district: St. George in the East
County: London
Year of registration: 1900
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1C
Page no: 580

MarriageFinder: Benjamin Fippard married one of the following people:

NOAKES, Elizabeth Jane<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
TIEDGEN, Magdalena
WINDHAUS, Gerhard

Kath. x

Kim, do you have your G/father's birth certificate ?

This is a must as a starting point if you are unsure of his parents.

His mother may not have married under the name Manning



Births Dec 1915
Fippard Patrick G H - Manning- Fulham 1a 266

His marriage cert should confirm his father's name

Name: Patrick G H Fippard
Spouse Surname: Kathleen W Haton Heaton
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942
Registration district: Bridge
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 2959


Name: Patrick George H Fippard
Birth Date: 16 Sep 1915
Date of Registration: Jun 1984
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Canterbury
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 342

Do you know when and where Benjamin and Nora died, so that we can work back from those facts?

Possible?
Nora J Fippard
Birth Date: abt 1875
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1961
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Bridge
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 95

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1322833

I haven't been able to see the orginal image, but it looks as though Nora was registered under Manning as well as Fippard.

Reads Fippard on the original.

1891 England Census
about Benjamin Feppard
Name: Benjamin Feppard
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Forton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Marine Barracks
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 881
Folio: 70
Page Number: 32

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Thankyou so much to everyone im awaiting on a full cert for my Grandads birth as only have the small one. I am fairly new to the community thread boards (not used them before) im beginning to find my way around I will be looking into all later when i have more time
Thanks again im so greatfull x

I now have my grandfathers birth cert but im having great difficulty now in finding marriage cert for his mother and father Benjamin Fippard & Nora Josephine Fippard nee Manning. I have a death cert for Nora but cant find a birth cert, she is possibly from America so could have married over there too unsure but thanks so much for all your help

Is the death that I posted for Nora J correct, or is there another one, as if she was born in 1875 she would have been 38 and 40 when the children were born.
If so, she has possibly been married before.

As I mentioned earlier, it looks like Nora was registered under the name Manning as well as Fippard. This probably means that her parents weren't married. Maybe Benjamin was still married to Elizabeth.


Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
________________________________________

Fippard Nora I Manning Portsmouth
2b 776


Manning Nora I Manning Portsmouth
2b 776

Elizabeth Jane Fippard a widow! died may 26th 1935 probate to John frederick Noakes £480,so this looks like Benjamins wife as she was nee Noakes.

Maryb.

Is this Norah J in 1911?

HINDS, Stephen John Head Married M 47 1864 Hotel Proprietor Walines Kent
HINDS, Mabel Grace Wife Married 6 years F 29 1882 Assisting In Business Deal Kent
HINDS, Joyce Clayson Daughter F 5 1906 Deal Kent
HINDS, Stephen Heubert Cekburn Son M 4 1907 Folkestone Kent
HINDS, John Collman Daughter F 2 1909 Newport I W
>>> MANNING, Norah Josephine Employee Single F 28 1883 Bar Maid Ballinglyn Co Gateway
NEWBURY, Elsie Emily Employee Single F 20 1891 Waitress Newport I W
NEWBURY, Amy Georgina Employee Single F 23 1888 Chambermaid Newport I W
FOWLER, Nellie Florence Mabel Employee Single F 20 1891 Waitress Ryde I W
PRINCE, Alice Emily Maud Employee Single F 29 1882 Housemaid Newport I W
BANKING, William Walter John Employee Single M 22 1889 Under Boots Ryde I W
REDSULL, Arthur Smith Employee Married M 38 1873 Head Boots Deal Kent
STEDMAN, Roza Employee Single F 49 1862 Cook Folkestone Kent
BROOKE, Nellie Norah Employee Single F 21 1890 Head Nurse Domestic Christchurch Hants
URRY, Evelyn Rose Employee Single F 15 1896 Under Nurse Domestic Malta

RG number: RG14 Piece: 5699
Reference: RG14PN5699 RD93 SD2 ED2 SN91
Registration District: Isle of Wight
Sub District: Newport
Enumeration District: 2
Parish: Newport
Address: Warburton's Hotel Newport I W
County: Hampshire

Her birth county is actually Galway.

Kim - could you give us the details from Norah J's death certificate?