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Nicola

Nicola Report 7 Apr 2013 14:47

Hi everyone
im really stuck :-(

I have a lady who married 3 times and its her first marriage I cant find if anyone would like to help
Dorothy (Doris) Mildred Hose born 4 Nov 1896 died Oct-Nov-Dec 1976 age 80 in Weston-Super-Mare.

I can find her 2nd marriage to Ernest J Poole Jan-Feb-Mar 1920 in Chelsea Middlesex where it gives her name as Dorothy M Hughes,

I know her 3rd marriage was to John Brown Jan-Feb-Mar 1934 in Dover Kent.

I know the second and third are correct as I have spoken to other family members but can not seem to find a marriage entry to a Hughes yet she had 2 children to her first marriage................... am I missing something maybe?

thanks
Nicola

:-S :-S :-S :-S :-S :-) :-|

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Apr 2013 15:04

Does the marriage certificate to E J Poole say that she was a widow ? ( she would only be 24 )

Just wondering if Hughes was written instead of Hose ( accents can be heard differently)

Nicola

Nicola Report 7 Apr 2013 15:09

I don't have the certificate sorry :-(

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Apr 2013 15:10

To start at the beginning, have you got her birth certificate ?

Not seeing a birth in 1896 for D M Hose

Flip

Flip Report 7 Apr 2013 15:12

You refer to 2 children for the Hughes/Hose couple - but when/where were they born please? I can't see any 1912-1920, and just one Hose/Hose child in 1919, Croydon.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Apr 2013 15:14

Do you know the names of the two children she is supposed to have had to her first marriage?

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Apr 2013 15:15

Trying to solve a mystery without certificate evidence is not the best plan.

The 2 children in the name of Hughes may have been born out of wedlock.
Dorothy may have lived with a Mr Hughes but not married.

Don't rely on what other family members tell you, check it out.




Flip

Flip Report 7 Apr 2013 15:25

Think you need to go back to basics - I assume the dob is from the death record you've found, but that is only as good as the informant knew - so may be wrong.

How exactly have you arrived at her? And, as asked already who are the children from her first marriage?

We are going back a long way, and peoples memories fade with time, or get muddled - so in order to help we need to know what hard facts you have please.

Added: Maybe you are really stuck because the info provided by relatives is not wholly accurate!

Nicola

Nicola Report 7 Apr 2013 15:25

No I was just trying to help father in law with his tree

All I have is an entry for her death in Weston-Super-Mare, this is my mother in laws granny and I know she visits the grave in Weston-Super-Mare.

I thought possibly her maiden name was Hughes not Hose but her two children with E Poole both say mothers maiden name Hose
I also could not find a birth for her :(

Christine

Christine Report 7 Apr 2013 15:28

There is a Dorothy M Hosey married a Thomas E Clements Dec. Q 1923 in Cardiff Glamorganshire which is not far from Weston super mare

Flip

Flip Report 7 Apr 2013 15:29

You said her 2 children were born to her first marriage, so is it to her second marriage to Poole?

Nicola

Nicola Report 7 Apr 2013 15:36

Yes you are all right and I only have what I have been told and to be honest its not making much sense to me either

Dorothy had 2 children Stella and Patrick unsure of surname and have not found births for either the only reason I know this is my husband met them years ago :(
they both lived in Dover Stella married a chap called John Smith and died a few years back.

Dorothy then married E Poole and had 2 more children Mary and Dennis, Mary born 1927 Dennis 1929 (Mary being my mother in laws mother)

Helen

Helen Report 7 Apr 2013 15:36

Hi Nicola- are you certain the death is the correct entry?

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 7 Apr 2013 15:36

This must be one of the children? but it is Hughes not Hose ??

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Poole Dorothy M Hughes Chelsea 1a 817

edit , apparently not then...but it does seem a coincidence?

Definitely need to check the birth certs of known children.

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Apr 2013 15:37

Christine - If she married Poole in 1920 she wouldn't be Dorothy Hosey in 1923

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Apr 2013 15:41

Is this her??????????

1911 England Census
about Mildred Hose
Name: Mildred Hose
[Doris Mildred Hose]
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 47 Magdalen Road, Wandsworth Common S W
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: STUDENT MUSIC
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: Sprinfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 2388
Household Members: Name Age
James Peter Hose 49
Caroline Elizabeth Hose 44
Mildred Hose 21 *********************************
Beatrice Hose 13


KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Apr 2013 15:42

I think you need to get the marriage certificate for the marriage to Ernest Poole:-

Name: HUGHES, Dorothy M
Registration district: Chelsea
County: London
Year of registration: 1920
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Poole
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 793

Name: POOLE, Ernest J
Registration district: Chelsea
County: London
Year of registration: 1920
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Hughes
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 793

This will tell you whether she is a spinster, widow or divorced.

Kath. x

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 7 Apr 2013 15:46



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Doris Mildred Hose
Name: Doris Mildred Hose
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Dec 1892
Father's Name: James Peter Hose
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Caroline Elizabeth Hose
Parish or Poor Law Union: Fulham St Peter
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type: Parish Registers

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Apr 2013 15:47

This girl was in Weston super Mare in the 1911:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Dorothy Mildred Hughes
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1895
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 88
...............................................................................................................

HUGHES, Eleanor Wife Married F 44 1867 Charwoman Kenton Devon
HUGHES, Dorothy Mildred Daughter Single F 16 1895 Newcastle on Tyne

RG number: RG14 Piece: 14599
Reference: RG14PN14599 RG78PN884 RD314 SD3 ED17 SN313
Registration District: Axbridge
Sub District: Weston Super Mare
Enumeration District: 17
Parish: Weston Super Mare

Address: 15 Moorland Road South Weston S Mare County: Somersetshire

Eleanor married 22 years (no mention of husband). 1 other child had died.

Nicola

Nicola Report 7 Apr 2013 15:47

This is all so confusing popping out to see in laws right now there must be something wrong somewhere... thank you all so much for replies and help will be back in a while and hopefully have more info for you all :)

many thanks
Nicola x