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peter cowie born 1863 Scotlaand

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mgnv

mgnv Report 8 Apr 2013 21:27

Sources for alviegal 13:06 8/4/13 hits
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ8R-M24
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ1H-RZ9
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQX4-BB9
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ47-2Z9
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F7CS-YN5

Potty

Potty Report 8 Apr 2013 14:33

Agreed. alviegal, Carl needs to get the marriage cert.

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Apr 2013 14:22

Didn't even notice that Potty! Does sound as if it could be them but Peter's marriage certificate would clarify all this. :-)

Potty

Potty Report 8 Apr 2013 13:24

Well done alviegal!

Was a bit worried to see Agnes in 1891 shown as widow when Robert was still alive in 1911! Checked the image and it looks as if Widow was changed to Married (or it could have been the other way around!)

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Apr 2013 13:06

Children born to Robert and Agnes.

Agnes Cowie Or Inglis

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 17 Jan 1867 LEITH,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND


parents:Robert Cowie, Agnes Inglis



Robert Cowie

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 23 Feb 1873 MEIGLE,PERTH,SCOTLAND


parents:Robert Cowie, Agnes Inglis




William Cowie Or Inglis

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 17 Jan 1867 LEITH,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND


parents:Robert Cowie, Agnes Inglis




Agnes Cumming Cowie

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 24 May 1871 BLAIRGOWRIE,PERTH,SCOTLAND


parents:Robert Cowie, Agnes Inglis




Francis Barclay Cowie

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 12 Oct 1868 EDINBURGH PARISH,EDINBURGH,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND


parents:Robert Cowie, Agnes Inglis

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Apr 2013 12:37

There is a death for a 3 year old Francis in Bairgowrie, 1872 on scotlandspeople.

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Apr 2013 12:19

Have a look at these.

1871 census transcription details for: 2, Croft Lane, Blairgowrie
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 335
Folio: 5
Page: 22
Reg. District: Blairgowrie
Sub District:
Parish: Blairgowrie
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 2, Croft Lane, Blairgowrie
County: Perthshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
>>COWIE, R Head Married M 28 1843 Horse Breaker Macduff, Aberdeenshire
COWIE, Agnes Wife Married F 26 1845 Midlothian
COWIE, Ann Daughter F 12 1859 Scholar Midlothian
>>COWIE, Peter Son M 7 1864 Scholar Midlothian
COWIE, Francis Son M 2 1869 England



Peter and Robert are in Newcastle in 1881. The family stayed behind. If Robert was born in MacDuff as it says above, he could also have been a seaman as MacDuff is a fishing village.



1881 census transcription details for: West Bank School Hill, Old Machar
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 1682
Folio: 49
Page: 52
Reg. District: Old Machar
Sub District:
Parish: Old Machar
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: West Bank School Hill, Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
COWIE, Agnes Wife Married F 36 1845 Scannear's Wife M S (on ancestry reads seaman)
Edinburgh
COWIE, Agnes Daughter F 9 1872 Scholar
Blairgowrie, Perthshire
COWIE, Robert Son M 8 1873 Scholar
Meigle, Perthshire
COWIE, William Son M 6 1875 Scholar
Meigle, Perthshire
COWIE, Catherine Daughter F 3 1878
Newtyle, Perthshire
COWIE, Alexander Son M 1 1880



Now the family have moved down to be closer.


1891 census transcription details for: Station Terrace, Cramlington, Cramlington Colliery
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4235
Folio: 126
Page: 21
Reg. District: Tynemouth
Sub District: Earsdon
Parish: Cramlington
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: Cramlington
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Station Terrace, Cramlington, Cramlington Colliery
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
COWIE, Agnes Head Widow F 46 1845
Edinburgh, Scotland
COWIE, Robert Son Single M 18 1873 Coal Miner
Druwcalbie, Scotland
COWIE, William Son Single M 16 1875 Coal Miner
Druwcalbie, Scotland
COWIE, Catherine R Daughter Single F 13 1878
Newtyle, Scotland
COWIE, Alexander J Son Single M 11 1880 Scholar
Aberdeen, Scotland
>>COWIE, David Y Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar
Nafferton, Northumberland
COWIE, Rachel T Daughter Single F 3 1888
Plessey, Northumberland


Civil Registration event: Death
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Name: COWIE, Agnes
Registration district: Tynemouth
County: Northumberland
Year of registration: 1899
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 54
Volume no: 10B
Page no: 250


Civil Registration event: Death
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Name: COWIE, Agnes Inglis
Registration district: Tynemouth
County: Northumberland
Year of registration: 1900
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 0
Volume no: 10B
Page no: 225

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Apr 2013 12:14


1901 census transcription details for: 39, Wilfred Street, Byker, Newcastle Upon Tyne
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4788
Folio: 142
Page: 32
Reg. District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub District: Byker
Parish: Byker
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: St Silas
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 39, Wilfred Street, Byker, Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
COWIE, Peter Head Married M 38 1863 General Labourer
Scotland
COWIE, Mary Wife Married F 38 1863
Newcastle on Tyne
COWIE, Agnes Daughter Single F 16 1885
Newcastle on Tyne
COWIE, James Son M 12 1889
Newcastle on Tyne
COWIE, Francess Daughter F 6 1895
Newcastle on Tyne
COWIE, Peter Son M 4 1897
Newcastle on Tyne
COWIE, Mary Daughter F 2 1899
Newcastle on Tyne
??COWIE, David Brother Single M 16 1885 General Labourer
Newcastle on Tyne

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Apr 2013 12:08

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1891 census transcription details for: Urpeth Hill, Stoney Lane, Urpeth, Pit Hill
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4122
Folio: 61
Page: 32
Reg. District: Chester Le Street
Sub District: Chester Le Street
Parish: Urpeth
Enum. District: 22
Ecclesiastical District: West Pelton
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Urpeth Hill, Stoney Lane, Urpeth, Pit Hill
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HUNTER, Mary Head Widow F 32 1859 Dressmaker
Pelton, County Durham
HUNTER, Ralph C Son Single M 4 1887
Tynemouth, Northumberland
CURRY, Dinah Sister Single F 28 1863
Pelton, County Durham
DAVISON, Ann Sister Widow F 26 1865 Dressmaker
Northallerton, Yorkshire
DAVISON, Sydney Nephew Single M 2 1889
Beamish, County Durham
ROBINSON, Thomas Boarder Single M 53 1838 Coal Screener
Penrith, Cumberland
>>COWIE, Robert Boarder Married M 47 1844 Horse Breaker
Scotland

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Apr 2013 11:42

I wondered about that one too Potty. Maybe he ran off!!
In any case, you need the marriage details to confirm his father's name, assuming he knew it of course.
Looks like the death of the above Peter, not that it helps really:

Name: Peter Cowie
Birth Date: abt 1863
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1926
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 181

Added:

Name: Mary Cowie
Birth Date: abt 1863
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1935
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 246


Jan

Potty

Potty Report 8 Apr 2013 11:32

Looking at the image for the1881, Robert's occupation looks like groom, if so this is possibly him in 1911:

1911 England Census
about Robert Cowie
Name: Robert Cowie
Age in 1911: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Tarvis, Aberdeen, Scotland
Civil parish: Elswick
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Stableman
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration District Number: 558
Sub-registration district: Elswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 36-37
Piece: 30614

mgnv

mgnv Report 8 Apr 2013 02:29

http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/your-council/register-office/historical-searches
1884 CRAWLEY Mary
1884 COWIE Peter
Marriage venue - St Cuthbert
Register No./Entry No.
ECU1/32
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/475217

This marr record is held by Tyne & Wear Archives, so viewing it there might be a cheaper alternative than buying a copy as an m.cert from the GRO
http://www.twmuseums.org.uk/tyne-and-wear-archives.html
Newcastle, St Cuthbert with All Saints
x 1879-1957
m 1881-1958
http://www.twmuseums.org.uk/userfiles/UG2.pdf

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Apr 2013 22:47

Looks like Mary with Agnes 1911:

1911 England Census
Name: Mary Dowie
Age in 1911: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Mother
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Byker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 7 St Michaels Road Byker
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration District Number: 558
Sub-registration district: Byker

Agnes Warren 26
George Warren 6
Mary Warren 4
Mary Dowie 48
James Dowie 22
John Dunn 18

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Apr 2013 22:02

??? No place of birth though.

1911 census transcription details for: 31 Thames St East Wallsend On-Tyne
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN30710 RG78PN1757 RD559 SD1 ED4 SN141
Reg. District: Tynemouth
Sub District: Wallsend
Parish: Wallsend
Enum. District: 4
Address: 31 Thames St East Wallsend On-Tyne
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WHITE, James Head Widower M 48 1863 Platers Labourer Londonderry Ireland Resident
WHITE, Edith Daughter F 13 1898 School Gilbraltar
WHITE, Margaret Daughter F 7 1904 School Gilbraltar
WHITE, Mary Daughter F 5 1906 Hebburn Colliery Durham
COWIE, Peter Boarder Married M 50 1861 Platers Labourer
COOK, Mary Housekeeper Single M 22 1889 Wallsend Northumberland

Unknown

Unknown Report 7 Apr 2013 19:45

Thanks Brummiejan,

I think you may be onto something with Robert

Carl

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Apr 2013 19:31

I wonder if Robert is his father??


1881 England Census
Name: Peter Cowie
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Newcastle on Tyne All Sts
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address: Garth Heads Section 6

Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: All Saints

Robert Fraser 43
Isabella Fraser 44
Robert M. Fraser 18
Dorinda A. Fraser 15
Thomas O. Fraser 12
William Fraser 9
George Fraser 6
Peter Mitchell Weir 22
Peter Cowie 18
Robert Cowie 42

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Apr 2013 19:30

Unfortunately I can't find him 1911, when he would probably have put his birthplace. Maybe someone else can!
Jan

Unknown

Unknown Report 7 Apr 2013 19:27

thanks to all, I'm acting on the info!

Carl

Kay????

Kay???? Report 7 Apr 2013 19:21


There are too many matching births for that time scale in Scotland,his fathers name could help.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 7 Apr 2013 19:20

Maybe his marriage? If you are trying to trace him back to Scotland you might need the cert:

Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)
Cowie Peter Newcastle T. 10b 83
CRAWLEY Mary Newcastle T 10b 83

Jan