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I WAS WONDERING IF ANY ONE COULD FIND jOHN WINSON BORN 1845 (OR THERE ABOUTS)OR HIS DAUGHTER LILY BORN 1878 IN BELPHER DERBYSHIRE.I HAVE LOOKED THROUGH CENSUS BUT CANNOT FIND THEM THANKYOU FOR YOUR HELP :-(

I see what you mean! Do you have an occupation for John?
Jan

I wonder if her birth cert might help you? But let's give it a go first!

Name: Lily Winson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1877
Registration district: Belper
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 563

Jan

Could this be him:-


1881 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address
Parish Crich
District Belper, Ripley
Administrative County Derbyshire
Householder 1
Name John Winson
Age 38
Estimated Year of Birth 1843
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Ag Lbr 46 Acres
Birth Place Duffield
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Ann Winson
Age 34
Estimated Year of Birth 1847
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Ashover
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 3
Name Selina Winson
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1878
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Sth Wingfield
Birth County Derbyshire

The daughter was born in 1877:

Births Dec 1877
Winson Lily Belper 7b 563

EDIT:

The 1881 census above looks a good bet as no Selina Winson birth registered in 1877/8 and South Wingfield was within the Belper Registration District.

1911 Census Household Record
Household information
Address Brook Farm Ravensdale Park Brailsford Derby
Parish Ravensdale Park
Town Brailsford Derby
Number of Rooms 6
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN20950 RG78PN1248 RD436 SD1 ED7 SN86
Administrative County Derbyshire
Registration District Belper
Registration Sub District Duffield
Enumeration District 7
Householder 1
Name George Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 42
Estimated Year of Birth 1869
Occupation Farmer
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Idridgehay Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Lydia Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 19 Years
Total Children Born Alive 8
Children Still Living 8
Gender F
Age 41
Estimated Year of Birth 1870
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Turnditch Derbyshire
Householder 3
Name George Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1893
Occupation Waggoner On Farm
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Derby Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name John Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1895
Occupation Cowman On Farm
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Ireton Wood Derbyshire
Householder 5
Name Mary Annie Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 14
Estimated Year of Birth 1897
Occupation Dairy Maid
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Ireton Wood Derbyshire
Householder 6
Name Evelyn Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1900
Occupation Attending School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Ireton Wood Derbyshire
Householder 7
Name Mabel Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1902
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Ravensdale Park Derbyshire
Householder 8
Name Amy Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1904
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Ravensdale Park Derbyshire
Householder 9
Name Joseph Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1908
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Ravensdale Park Derbyshire
Householder 10
Name Lydia Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1910
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Ravensdale Park Derbyshire
Householder 11
Name John Winson
Relationship to Head of Household Father
Condition / Years Married Widower
Gender M
Age 74
Estimated Year of Birth 1837
Occupation Retired Farmer
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Shottle Derbyshire

???
Marriages Dec 1870
BRAILSFORD Ann Belper 7b 937
Winson John Belper 7b 937

1871:
Name: John Winson
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Winson
Gender: Male
Where born: Duffield, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: South Wingfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Belper
Sub-registration district: Ripley
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 129
Piece: 3589
Folio: 38
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
John Winson 27
Ann Winson 23

Could this be Lily in 1891 - I see no birth for a Lilian Winson. She is in Crich parish which follows from the 1881?

1891 census transcription details for: Haynes Lane, Crich

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 2747
Folio: 9
Page: 11
Reg. District: Belper
Sub District: Ripley
Parish: Crich
Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District: Crich
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Haynes Lane, Crich
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BENNETT, Sarah Head Widow F 71 1820 Living On Her Own Means Crich, Derbyshire
STREET, John Brother Single M 74 1817 General Labourer Crich, Derbyshire
WINSON, Lillian Boarder Single F 13 1878 Seaming Hose Wingfield, Derbyshire

?? Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: WINSON, Lily
Registration district: Belper
County: Derbyshire
Year of registration: 1900
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 7B
Page no: 1175
MarriageFinder: Lily Winson married one of the following people:

BULLOCK, William
SIMS, Charles Herbert <<<<<<<<??
WESTON, Rose Hannah

A William and Rose Bullock aged 26/24 are in Belper on the 1901 census

?? POssible death for mother Ann, age a couple of years out from 1881 census - no other Ann/ie Winson on 1881 census =/- 4 years
Civil Registration event: Death

Name: WINSON, Annie
Registration district: Belper
County: Derbyshire
Year of registration: 1883
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 34
Volume no: 7B
Page no: 375

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THANKYOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP ALSO CYNTHIA I HAVE PRINTED OFF THE INFORMATION YOU SENT ME IT IS A GREAT HELP THANKYOU I HAVE LOTS AND LOTS TO CHECK OUT BEST WISHES TO EVERYONE VALERIE :-) :-) :-)